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Old 04-06-2006, 06:47 AM
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Default I hate money

Villian is nittish and fairly predictable. TAGish (I doubt he's a big position player) when he has the initiative, and a "set miner" otherwise.

We haven't tangled much. I haven't been caught out of line.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($1244.60)
CO ($533.58)
Button ($608.25)
SB ($1138.99)
BB ($256.12)
UTG ($1225.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $9. SB posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $22</font>, Hero calls $22, CO (poster) calls $16, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

<font color="green"> Yawn </font>

Flop: ($78) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $75</font>, Hero calls $75, CO folds.

<font color="green"> Ok, my hand is good here far too often to fold, ofcourse it sucks that CO is still to act, but I expect him to fold most hands after I call (and if he raises I can safely fold) </font>

Turn: ($228) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $120</font>, UTG calls $120.

<font color="green">Ok, I think this street is debateable. I think picking up the pot here is best. I think my turnbet is good, it's not small enough to invite him to bluff/continue with overcards etc, and I still think he calls a pot bet with the same hands as he would this bet. Thoughts?</font>

River: ($468) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero calls $1027.60 (All-In)

<font color="green">Ok, after he check-calls the turn I think his hand is fairly clearly defined as an overpair (I doubt he raises any jacks UTG other than AJ or JJ), and I can't beat an overpair. I want this fairly big pot. I cant win a showdown, thus I must bluff.

Ofcourse he could be trapping, but I doubt it. I don't like making a "value bet" here, as I think AA and KK instacalls this. Potsized bet better?</font>


Additional questions:
1) Would you show if he folds?

2) I rarely (too rarely) make these overbets with hands that aren't very very strong. Any recomendations on situations where I can employ these overbets (versus decent to good players/regulars). For example situations where I know they probably won't call anyway and I have a very strong hand?

3) Is this hand, and my thought process complete suicide?
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