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Rate my play
Two hands. Very similar
60-120 UTG limps(crazy asian Lag. He has told me he fears my game. Not sure if he was serious), UTG+1 limps, I raise AKs, everyone clears out, limpers call Flop: K55 Both check, I bet, UTG raises, UTG+1 folds, I 3 bet, UTG calls. Turn: 8 completing the rainbow UTG checks and holds his chips out like he is going to call my bet, I check River: J UTG bets, I call Hand 2: 40-80 I raise As9s in middle position, Button calls, Sb 3 bets(this guy is probably pissed off at me. On his kill pot, I raised AQ, he 3 bets, I flop an Ace and he check-called me down), I call, button calls Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Sb bets, I call, button folds. Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Sb bets, I call River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Sb checks, I check |
#2
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Re: Rate my play
scenario 1... BET, BET, BET... I hate when people use the reverse tell / pre-loaded chip trick on the turn and it works. I don't think there is any way he has you beat or is holding a 5.
scenario 2... I like... I think a lot of folks might argue a SUPER thin value bet on the river, but I hate VB'ing myself in these situations and having the guy turn over A-10 |
#3
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scenario 1 i bet the turn
scenario 2 i check behind the river |
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scenario 1... BET, BET, BET... I hate when people use the reverse tell / pre-loaded chip trick on the turn and it works. I don't think there is any way he has you beat or is holding a 5. [/ QUOTE ] I was 85% certain my hand was good when I checked |
#5
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I like both.
I think you induced a bluff on hand 1 and he was folding the turn. A free card is not dangerous here. The odds of him getting a winner are long indeed, most likely he's drawing dead. On hand 2, I can hardly imagine a hand calling you that does not have you beat. (Any better Ace is still better and almost every Ace-rag improved to Aces up. I think he is either afraid of a flush but can beat most everything else and will call, or is (incorrectly) trying to induce a bluff. |
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[ QUOTE ] scenario 1... BET, BET, BET... I hate when people use the reverse tell / pre-loaded chip trick on the turn and it works. I don't think there is any way he has you beat or is holding a 5. [/ QUOTE ] I was 85% certain my hand was good when I checked [/ QUOTE ] Bet anyways. Lots of players use the "i'm gonna call you" telegraph to try and stop a bluff, but most of them don't have the discipline to fold when you bet anyways. Bet turn, bet river, and get paid. As played, I might raise the river. Scenario 2, I think I'd find a value bet here. |
#7
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So you know the getting chips ready to call means weak, so why did you check? Were you trying to go a level above him, he knows he is showing weakness, and you checking means you are even weaker than expected, which gets him to bluff?
I would really like your thinking on hand 1, as it is player dependent. Is this the type who can show weakness by intimidating with calling chips, and then pulls off a check raise??? (I have never seen this personally, but am sure it exists...) |
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Longtime lurker, thought I'd finally start posting some.
Hand 1: He made a shutout raise on the flop, so I'm not too worried about a 5, but if you're not going to bet the turn after you 3-bet, why not just let him lead turn and river? Hand 2: Looks like a value bet to me, but I guess it's live poker so I don't fault a check. -KPR |
#9
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Brandon--
I think you're too likely to get two bets from a worse hand to check the turn on hand 1. Given that you got to the river the way you did, I'd consider raising. I like hand 2, especially under standard conditions in the brown-chip CAZ games. --Nate |
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in hand 1, you open a major can of worms vs. this kind of opponent by 3betting the flop.
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