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Re: $22: 66 OTB, bubble hand
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You're really overestimating the amount of times the blinds come over the top in these situations especially on the bubble. [/ QUOTE ] I don't. I said, I'd open shove against some kind of villains, I classified them usually as very good or regulars that might know I'll raise/fold a lot or here or so, read it. Against most villains, in this spot a minraise or 2.5x is the appropriate way to play it. |
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Re: $22: 66 OTB, bubble hand
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Depends on my reads of the opponents. I'll push if they are tight calling all-ins but like to see flops anyway. I'll min-raise/fold or so if they are very weak-tight. I'll fold, if I spot them to be weak bubble players, like to call too weak hands. If they are good but still standard SnG players, I'll push, as those will be too weak-tight (but might be capable of restealing). If they are "standard" regulars, I'll push about 25-35% of time and fold otherwise. It they are really great (having ROI of 20% or so), I'll just fold. Those would be capable of calling correctly with AK, 77 or so, but those players are rare at 22s. I hope, I confused you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] But Standard play without reads would be a fold here, probably push with 77, definitly with 99. [/ QUOTE ] You offer 3 options...Pushing, Folding, or Min-Raising. I can understand an argument for folding, but not pushing or min-raising. |
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Re: $22: 66 OTB, bubble hand
lolo kamel your logic is so flawed.
just exclusively open monsters on the bbl if you get restolen on all day. |
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Re: $22: 66 OTB, bubble hand
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[ You offer 3 options...Pushing, Folding, or Min-Raising. I can understand an argument for folding, but not pushing or min-raising. [/ QUOTE ] If your opponents are really tight, there is no real difference between minraising, 2.5x,3x BB in terms of restealing, but in your risk/reward ratio. So, if SB and BB will only play back if they have very good hands, a minraise might be enough. Being said this, I'll personally still prefer 2.5x, as it looks more sound ant it is good even without good reads, but I still wanted to provide the minraise-option as it might the best against the right opponents. Some of my 20% ROI regulars play so like against the tight fishes and it works for them (and I mean at $50-$100 level), so there is a point in doing so. |
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Re: $22: 66 OTB, bubble hand
But some of your 20% ROI regs at the 50-100$ level don't do it, right?
And it works for them, right? |
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Re: $22: 66 OTB, bubble hand
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lolo kamel your logic is so flawed. just exclusively open monsters on the bbl if you get restolen on all day. [/ QUOTE ] I only explained that my logic is valid if you as BU might play against me. Raise/Fold shows -EV against my reraising shoving Range if I spot you as a solid SnG player. I didn't said you should shove 66 against any2 players, but only against some very aggressive ones. If you don't like it, well, so don't like it. I like the extra 3-5% ROI I make against regulars, and I laugh about all these guys here in this forum telling that ROI of 15% is not possible at $50-$100. Even at $200 SnGs it's still possible to get more than 10% ROI. Of course not, if your only option here with 66 on BU is to raise/fold it. |
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Re: $22: 66 OTB, bubble hand
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But some of your 20% ROI regs at the 50-100$ level don't do it, right? And it works for them, right? [/ QUOTE ] Some are minraising and it works for them. They have balanced their MR-Range well and have good reads about their opponents. None of them does more like 4-6 tabling (I also don't). I find it a bit too hard to work the minraising-strategy into my game and as I also win good, so I don't need it yet. I focus more on reraise/shove-Play that works like I play it for me. If I consider to move up to $500+, I'll probably reconsider it, who knows. |
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Re: $22: 66 OTB, bubble hand
I mainly raise t375 here but a specific read on BB could make me fold or even limp.
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