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$215 JJ
Not liking my hand much after the flop here.
How's the line? I have to say I think I'm ahead most times but this early in the tournament someone risking everything must have better than JJ? TT or QQ+ or an OESD Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t25/t50 8 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t10000 UTG+1: t10000 MP1: t10000 Hero: t10000 CO: t10000 Button: t10000 SB: t10000 BB: t10000 Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to t150</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t450</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to t975</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls t525 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1650)</font>. Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t2175, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets t1100</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t3350</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in t9025</font> |
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Re: $215 JJ
Fold to the flop bet, you're playing for set value by calling preflop.
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Re: $215 JJ
I would only call preflop for set-value, so on the flop I would check/fold
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Re: $215 JJ
His continuation bet is 50% though!
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Re: $215 JJ
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His continuation bet is 50% though! [/ QUOTE ] so? we still dont have odds to call to hit a jack or a runner runner.. It would be different if the flop was 89T |
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Re: $215 JJ
Look at his preflop 4bet, do you really think he's doing that light? I would put his range as KK+ and heavily weighted towards AA.
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Re: $215 JJ
Maybe but I would 4bet with AK as well, though most don't.
Wouldn't you bet more on the flop for value if you had KK+ hand? |
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Re: $215 JJ
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Maybe but I would 4bet with AK as well, though most don't. Wouldn't you bet more on the flop for value if you had KK+ hand? [/ QUOTE ] Not a person who 4bets this small preflop, he WANTS to be raised, or does not want you to go away |
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Re: $215 JJ
shoving is better than raising the flop as you can actually turn your hand into a bluff and get him to fold qq or kk (at a very large stretch as its a relatively dry board)
Your line stinks! Check/fold flop as everyone else in this thread will tell you. Btw, has anyone ever tried the min re-raise as bluff to set-up a take down of a juicy pot on the flop? It is effective but I'm wondering at what levels is it best to try this strange play. |
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Re: $215 JJ
The problem here is you're turning your hand into a bluff by c/r if you're planning to fold to a shove. You might as well have 72o. Agree with gobbo, fold the flop and if you reeeely don't believe opp. then c/c one street reeval turn but even that I don't like because of all the overs that can hit the turn and if a 2 comes and you check and he fires a 2nd barrel you've gained no additional info.
I just call the 150 pre or raise a bit more if I'm going to rr also. |
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