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Old 11-09-2007, 02:38 PM
Apanage Apanage is offline
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Bet/fold is best against a majority of players.But a thinking TAG would identify this spot as being one to do something similar to a value/bluff raise on river.And we also have the half retarded that raises without realizing why it can be a good spot to raise. The cost of being up against those players is enormous since you lose the whole pot but against the other players you´re winning a bet only occasionally.
That being said I still think the players that raise the river with a lesser hand is so few that bet/fold is OK.
But it is a dangerous habit to bet/folding scary rivers.
If you done this against me I would have written a note about it before the next hand was dealt since I don´t have to be Einstein to put you on an overpair.
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Old 11-09-2007, 03:01 PM
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You must bet, and I would call a raise against an unknown.
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Old 11-09-2007, 03:07 PM
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If you put 108 and 107 in his range, you have to ask is he going to raise that on the river? If he has 108 then I don't think so, because he would have raised the turn. The river card is a big scare card for 108. I also don't think he raises 107, even though he upgraded to two pair, again, that's a very scary card for his hand.

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Raising the turn with T8 would obviously be a huge mistake of him anyway.
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Old 11-09-2007, 03:11 PM
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You must bet, and I would call a raise against an unknown.

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agree
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:39 PM
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TY. I wanted to know the reasoning behind b/f rather than c/c.

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You should bet because he is checking behind a lot of the hands that would have called a bet. He might check beind AT, KT, QT, JT, T8, 55, 44, 33, 22, 98s and prolly a few more.

If you check he knows what you have and he will valueown you if his IQ is higher than 2.

The point I was trying to make was that I dont care what you do vs a raise as log as you dont c/c. I will prolly b/c an unknown here but IMO its something like

b/c >> b/f >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> c/c

Besides. He doesnt have a 9 very often. He might have the fd but its not even sure he will raise it if he is a bit weak and bad. Just bet and pick up value from KT.
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:06 PM
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TY. I wanted to know the reasoning behind b/f rather than c/c.

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You should bet because he is checking behind a lot of the hands that would have called a bet. He might check beind AT, KT, QT, JT, T8, 55, 44, 33, 22, 98s and prolly a few more.

If you check he knows what you have and he will valueown you if his IQ is higher than 2.

The point I was trying to make was that I dont care what you do vs a raise as log as you dont c/c. I will prolly b/c an unknown here but IMO its something like

b/c >> b/f >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> c/c

Besides. He doesnt have a 9 very often. He might have the fd but its not even sure he will raise it if he is a bit weak and bad. Just bet and pick up value from KT.

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TY. Big help
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