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Re: 400 NL, AKs, fold or shove situation.
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I rather fold/shove preflop as played I fold [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: 400 NL, AKs, fold or shove situation.
shoving preflop>>>>>>>shoving here
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Re: 400 NL, AKs, fold or shove situation.
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a little off topic, but this thread has prompted a question from me: should those of us languishing down at nl50 be folding AK oop if we are 3bet by unknown opponents as therir range is usually QQ+ & AK? [/ QUOTE ] If you raised from EP, yes. This is a fold against an unknown at any level where the play is not absolutely awful and you assume an unknown has a brain. If you raised from CO and the button 3-bets then the range is probably wider than QQ+,AK and I'd at least call or possibly push depending on stack sizes. |
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Re: 400 NL, AKs, fold or shove situation.
4-bet to $150, or fold preflop. Just calling to play AKs heads up OOP is probably worse than either letting your hand go because of your poor position, or reraising to make a big play for the pot.
As played preflop for the call OOP, bet/fold the flop for $100. If he just calls, c/f the turn unless you pick up a flush draw to go with your over cards, in which case, push the turn. As played on the flop for a check, you should check/fold. I doubt he's going anywhere with QQ-AA, and "No real reads" isn't much help OOP with 2 overcards that completely missed the flop. Let it go. |
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Re: 400 NL, AKs, fold or shove situation.
IDK how you can put his range at QQ+ AK. Its a 60 hand sample?
SABR how have you been running in those 60 hands? You play pretty LAG right? Anyway I don't like how you played the hand - c/shove on flop or 4bet/call or shove pre is the way to go. |
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Re: 400 NL, AKs, fold or shove situation.
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IDK how you can put his range at QQ+ AK. Its a 60 hand sample? [/ QUOTE ] yeah exactly so he's basically unk, therefore QQ+ AK |
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Re: 400 NL, AKs, fold or shove situation.
Pre-flop: Easy fold
Flop: Easier fold |
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Re: 400 NL, AKs, fold or shove situation.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] also as gay as it is i would probably fold pre the first time i get 3bet by this dude. [/ QUOTE ] Really? I can't really see folding to a 25/10's 3 bet with AKs. [/ QUOTE ] OOP and without knowing he's 3-betting with wider than AK,QQ+ this is a fold. The 25/10 just means he steals and raises limpers a lot- you dont know he's 3-betting light yet. Against that range, you're screwed because you're not extracting from QQ if you hit the flop, you're splitting with AK if you both hit and he's got a chance to push you off using postition both miss. KK will get away cheap if you get the ace, and if you get the case K on the flop you're going to loose a lot. AA will extract a lot from you if you hit the flop... In short, AK vs QQ+,AK range sucks even worse than it seems postflop. [/ QUOTE ] Looks like I've found a leak? Crazy thing is, I run nitty (12/8) and I'm 3 betting with a way wider range than QQ+/AK...especially against a LAG. |
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Re: 400 NL, AKs, fold or shove situation.
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IDK how you can put his range at QQ+ AK. Its a 60 hand sample? SABR how have you been running in those 60 hands? You play pretty LAG right? Anyway I don't like how you played the hand - c/shove on flop or 4bet/call or shove pre is the way to go. [/ QUOTE ] I play pretty LAG but I've shown down very strong hands in all-in pots. I really hate the way I played this hand. Given I called pre-flop I really should have shoved the flop or else pre-flop is kinda pointless. |
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Re: 400 NL, AKs, fold or shove situation.
hes on the butttttton......
4 bet and call a shove |
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