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Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $10.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com
CO ($1014.00) Hero ($918.75) SB ($1148.00) BB ($1355.25) UTG ($1267.33) MP ($1102.00) Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $130</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $95. Flop: ($275) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $215</font>, CO calls $215. Turn: ($705) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> CO checks, Hero? $574 left Final Pot: $1852.50 villain is 18/14/3, pretty good i guess, cant remember much specific history with him no timing tells how oftne if ever should i be shoving turn? |
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i shove here every time.
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Shooooove it
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How aggro preflop is hero?
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19/17 or so i guess he will have me at, this is at start of a session though
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I don't think its as easy as a shove as a couple people have said. Esp. on prima, yall get looked up with any king and maybe even QQ or JJ. I think you should have some type of read on this player to shove here, otherwise, it seems kinda wreckless. I def. think there are times to shove the turn, but i think you should have some type of read for doing it.
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What are we folding out if we shove other then naked heart draws? Kx is calling here for sure, and as stated above it wouldn't surprise me if JJ/QQ called it off.
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with image i shove too, i dont see many kx's getting this far from a 18/14, i feel like he folds kj-kt pf and a good amount of the time kq as well
i mean if he has qq and jj here and calls then so be it, but if you do the math im pretty sure it'll be +ev...coordinate his pf range(ak(4bets?) aq,33-tt,does he 4bet jj/qq always?) w/his calling range on the flop(88-qq,ak) and i think the shove is good, plus it balances out when we do have ak and want a call. Also, since i think he'll 4bet ak alot preflop your ace outs should be good and if he has a small pair your q outs are good too so you wont be drawing dead if he makes a hero call |
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I should also mention that by "image" i mean the fact that you're 19/17 and you have virtually no history of 3betting him light bc its the beginning of the session, which means if hes competent he can have your pf range at {aqs, ak, aa,kk-99}...but that may be giving you a bit too much credit bc you're on the button, so he can talk himself into a wider range that includes (aqs,ak,aa,kk-99,89s+,"air") and your turn shove range at {aqh, ak, aa, kk,air}
i just think given your range it makes it hard for him to call with all but the best of his range am i off here or do others agree.. |
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been a couple hours, wondering if anyone has any comments on my hand ranges here and i feel like this is a fairly common situation that i'd like a decent answer to
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