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Re: 2nd hand of Mulligan AA
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This hand is a good example of goals and reasonable expectations. The appropriate times to massively scale risk on AA are pre-flop and flop. On the turn and river one should be wary of adding variance well outside of a reasonable expectation for unimproved AA. Skilled dynamic hand readers can argue to death the ratio of hero ahead/behind but that is not how to make a decision in this hand. Making the call puts your risk/stack ratio well beyond a reasonable expectation for unimproved AA on the river. Even if a slightly +EV opportunity is perceived, it is not a worth it from the standpoint of relative opportunity of stack utility. [/ QUOTE ] So if calling this river is +EV you would still fold? Proceed to Baltostar ruining another thread... |
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Re: 2nd hand of Mulligan AA
Eh, I think timing tells are kind of important here. Also, what spade/spade combo hand calls here preflop alot? I guess you could db him, then decide. It is pretty much read based IMO as each case here has some piece of little info that makes it a call/fold. I think the longer he takes before the river shove the more likely I am to fold as the faster he shoves the river makes me want to call.
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Re: 2nd hand of Mulligan AA
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This hand is a good example of goals and reasonable expectations. The appropriate times to massively scale risk on AA are pre-flop and flop. On the turn and river one should be wary of adding variance well outside of a reasonable expectation for unimproved AA. Skilled dynamic hand readers can argue to death the ratio of hero ahead/behind but that is not how to make a decision in this hand. Making the call puts your risk/stack ratio well beyond a reasonable expectation for unimproved AA on the river. Even if a slightly +EV opportunity is perceived, it is not a worth it from the standpoint of relative opportunity of stack utility. [/ QUOTE ] dshahdshshlhahlhgfh;glh;lhdskghk |
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Re: 2nd hand of Mulligan AA
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[ QUOTE ] This hand is a good example of goals and reasonable expectations. The appropriate times to massively scale risk on AA are pre-flop and flop. On the turn and river one should be wary of adding variance well outside of a reasonable expectation for unimproved AA. Skilled dynamic hand readers can argue to death the ratio of hero ahead/behind but that is not how to make a decision in this hand. Making the call puts your risk/stack ratio well beyond a reasonable expectation for unimproved AA on the river. Even if a slightly +EV opportunity is perceived, it is not a worth it from the standpoint of relative opportunity of stack utility. [/ QUOTE ] dshahdshshlhahlhgfh;glh;lhdskghk [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I ran out of toilet paper so I printed off what baltostar said until I get some more. |
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Re: 2nd hand of Mulligan AA
Baltostar is GigaBet reincarnate.
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Re: 2nd hand of Mulligan AA
i bet more on the turn.
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Re: 2nd hand of Mulligan AA
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even though the 9 is os, its still a pretty bad card vs his range, I don't think he's valueshoving a worse hand than AA often at all and it seems unlilkely for it to be a bluff.. i'd fold [/ QUOTE ] If he's good, why wouldn't he value shove kj etc since your hand does not look like aces more than any other in your range for raising pre. This is surely a bluff/value bet with worse, enough to call, rounding off a well-played hand. |
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Re: 2nd hand of Mulligan AA
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[ QUOTE ] even though the 9 is os, its still a pretty bad card vs his range, I don't think he's valueshoving a worse hand than AA often at all and it seems unlilkely for it to be a bluff.. i'd fold [/ QUOTE ] If he's good, why wouldn't he value shove kj etc since your hand does not look like aces more than any other in your range for raising pre. This is surely a bluff/value bet with worse, enough to call, rounding off a well-played hand. [/ QUOTE ] errr.. what? I never said he wouldn't valueshove KJ. I said it was unlikely he would valueshove a worse hand, which I still think is true |
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Re: 2nd hand of Mulligan AA
wow, apply all my comments for kq, sorry dude.
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