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Weeeeird spot with AK, all streets
10/20 6max, I'm in BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG (3900) - solid regular MP (3800) - mostly unknown CO (2000) Button (2700) - mostly unknown SB (4000) Hero, BB (2000) - TAG image probably, but maybe unknown to these other guys UTG: raises to $70 MP: raises to $220 CO: folds Button: coldcalls SB: folds Hero: calls? UTG: calls Flop [ 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ] (Pot ~ $900) Hero: checks? UTG: checks MP: checks Button: checks Turn [ 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ] (Pot ~ $900) Hero: checks? UTG: checks MP: checks Button: bets $325 Hero: calls UTG: folds MP: folds River [ 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] (Pot ~ $1550) Hero: checks (intending to call anything, probably) I could see a preflop 4-bet or a turn and/or river bet as played being the most obvious alternatives to this line. just a weird spot all around. How would you play it? |
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Re: Weeeeird spot with AK, all streets
I would shove preflop. ( I assume they are not only raising the nuts preflop)
As played I would bet turn and river. |
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Re: Weeeeird spot with AK, all streets
don't like the call pre, unless you get some diamonds there's almost no board you're gonna be getting good action on. as played lead turn? a river bet is pretty worthless i think, either call or fold depending on villian. you said mostly unknown so i guess a call is ok but it's close.
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Re: Weeeeird spot with AK, all streets
Preflop you chose the worst of all options. What made you call?
Flop check is ok I guess. If it`s getting checked through your opponents aren`t drawing to alot of outs most of the time. Why didn`t you bet the turn? As played I would raise. I would like to here your thoughts behind your decisions in this hand as it looks totally messed up to me. |
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Re: Weeeeird spot with AK, all streets
i agree that calling pf is the worst option
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Re: Weeeeird spot with AK, all streets
I like every street.
Obviously PF is your biggest decision but once you call which I don't mind nearly as much as the rest of the forum, I think you played it out perfectly. If you bet the turn it would be with the intention of folding to a raise (I assume) and given PF, it just seems way too borderline spewy. You will get raised often with worse (semi bluffin clubs) and may get trapped against better (AA/sets). Once the flop gets checked through, I am looking to get to as cheap a showdown as possible. The value of your hand with PF action, lies in inducing more then being the aggressor. The ol' pull vs. push mentality. I had a whole post written as to why I like PF but for some reason I can't express it articulately or atleast without writing a book. But I do like it. |
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Re: Weeeeird spot with AK, all streets
[ QUOTE ]
Preflop you chose the worst of all options. What made you call? Flop check is ok I guess. If it`s getting checked through your opponents aren`t drawing to alot of outs most of the time. Why didn`t you bet the turn? As played I would raise. I would like to here your thoughts behind your decisions in this hand as it looks totally messed up to me. [/ QUOTE ] well to be honest, it was a spot i've been in so rarely that i froze up preflop. i also don't particularly like shoving into 3 players who all may well have the nuts or close to it. I haven't done the math, of course (but why should I, how often does this situation arise?) My intuition says that if I 4-bet shove i'll either win $500 or lose $2000 (well, say, $1500, what with the equity and all). I just don't know what % they'll all fold. So, getting pretty good pot odds with my drawing hand, I chose to call. Yea its oop, but i'll run into enough dominated aces and can happily c/f if i don't hit a nice flop, so i think i'm in pretty good shape. When the king comes, I realize that i'm wa/wb and realize the way they'll put the most money in bad is likely by betting at me, so I gave them some chances. I think I can probably get in maybe 1 solid bet (the turn bet obv wasn't that solid, but if I c/r, i'm kinda stuck to the pot). I think a river bet would have been good, but again, it'd stick me to the pot. |
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