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Re: Top boat on flop turns into a fold
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What is his range people? [/ QUOTE ] |
#12
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Re: Top boat on flop turns into a fold
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] c/r flop [/ QUOTE ] meh, I don't usually like to get this tricky with my big hands but after there's a bet and a call in front I really don't feel like I can take a more aggressive line than I did without telegraphing that my hand is huge [/ QUOTE ] are you saying if you had 76s this would be the easiest c/r bluff ever? [/ QUOTE ] Assuming that UTG is competent and as is SB, I feel that this is a really sick sick move, but I've never had the balls to really try it out. But the fact that he's leading into 2 peeps generally really scares me and don't think he's gonna fold at all and I prolly fold instead of going for the c/r. So, my question is, is a c/r bluff a good play here on the flop? Edit: OP, wtf, instacall. |
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Re: Top boat on flop turns into a fold
I guess I just don't understand a line that encompasses both checking this flop to induce action, and then folding on the river when it goes all in. If you have his range solely on KK by the river, why in the world wouldn't you bet the flop?
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Re: Top boat on flop turns into a fold
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
number of fist pumps should be the title... |
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Re: Top boat on flop turns into a fold
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I guess I just don't understand a line that encompasses both checking this flop to induce action, and then folding on the river when it goes all in. If you have his range solely on KK by the river, why in the world wouldn't you bet the flop? [/ QUOTE ] Obv I'm almost never folding my hand to any action, but the hand played out in pretty much the only possible way that I ever could. I'm also not putting him solely on KK, I expect him to show up with 99 or 33 more often. Also, jfish, I just watched the jman cardrunners vid and I think his thoughts also sum up well why I don't like c/r the flop. I don't like turning my range into an extremely polarized one of huge hand/air on the flop, I want to take lines that let my opponents put me on a wider range of hands. Thus, I would prefer to lead this flop or check/call |
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Re: Top boat on flop turns into a fold
to everyone saying call, are you saying this because you believe he's bluffing or because you believe he's valueshoving A3/43 type hands? Or both?
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Re: Top boat on flop turns into a fold
So then lead the flop. Now that we have his range down to hands like KK/99/33, leading the flop makes more sense. Get value out of overpairs by leading out.
If check/call was your plan the entire way down, I'm curious as to what river card you'd have felt good about if he three bet shoves? By C/Cing wasnt the plan to get it all in? |
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Re: Top boat on flop turns into a fold
such an awkwardly played hand
makes it difficult to put him on any range at all even still it's a snap call |
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Re: Top boat on flop turns into a fold
Call because we are snapping off 3x AND air hands. Also call because it makes no sense to have 88 in the playbook if we can't call here. You called and lost to KK and decided to post this without seeing the Results Oriented thread, right?
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Re: Top boat on flop turns into a fold
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to everyone saying call, are you saying this because you believe he's bluffing or because you believe he's valueshoving A3/43 type hands? Or both? [/ QUOTE ] Valueshoving worse, but it doesn't matter, you beat both options! |
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