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A2o otb
villian is super tag -29/26/2.35 over 340 hands
30-60 on ftp i open otb with A2o, villan 3 bets, i call. flop is Qs 9s Ah he bets i call. turn is Tc he checks i bet he crs, i fold. standard, you guys ever check the turn or call down? dave |
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Re: A2o otb
if I think he plays good ie he's not taking sevens to showdown I check the turn
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Re: A2o otb
In general I think your line is best, you gotta extract from KK/KQ/QJ/pocket pairs. this board is pretty semibluff friendly, but there aren't many semibluffing hands he could have that don't have you smoked already. KsTs is like the only I can think of.
It seems like a weird line for him to take though, what are some hands you think he can have with this line? Board is drawy, why would he do this with a big ace, set, or two pair? If he plays the way I think a tag should play then he would bet the turn with all those holdings. |
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Re: A2o otb
Seriously, I don't see how checking the turn could be justifiable at all.
-Michael |
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Re: A2o otb
[ QUOTE ]
Seriously, I don't see how checking the turn could be justifiable at all. -Michael [/ QUOTE ] Well, one time I could see it is if you're pretty sure you're only getting one bet out of villain if he has a worse hand. If this is the case, then it's better to see the river and get the bet(s) or not when you will have additional info. There also may be a case for checking if villain c/r's a lot with a good distribution of bluffs to value raises. In any case though, you will be giving villain a free card sometimes when he would have folded. OP played the hand the way I would have for what that's worth. I don't think you can justify a check without some feel for the player. |
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Re: A2o otb
"In any case though, you will be giving villain a free card sometimes when he would have folded"
do you really think he's going to fold a pair+king? if not what hands are you talking about that aren't 2 outers? I guess 88. if you get called on the turn are you betting the river? "It seems like a weird line for him to take though" really? it's a line I take quite a bit and I see it a lot too. |
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Re: A2o otb
Given his aggression isn't it quite resonable to also assume many hands that include a pair and a draw in his raise range? Just curious if most auto fold in this situation?
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Re: A2o otb
I call down. I think you are probably chopping. My most likely hand in villian's spot is TPNK. Most tags will be looking to b/3b anything stronger and just c/c or b/c 1pr+draw/strong draw types of hands.
Edit: actually, I didn't really consider he pf action in my statement above... maybe his pf 3bet makes this a fold... |
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Re: A2o otb
I don't want to say he's never bluffing here but ok I'll say it he's never bluffing here. Fold.
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Re: A2o otb
I like the turn bet/fold. I think i check vs. a slightly more passive player.
Some Lag/Tag-ish type guys will check a hand like JT here. However, I will say that sometimes I do raise this flop. Not necessarily standard for me but it does open up a lot of player's turn c/r range to the point where I am calling down and it's profitable as opposed to calling down and drawing dead. |
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