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Re: Arky Vaughan
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Vaughn was always the odd man out. I used to pore over baseball stats and I have to admit that I, too, hadn't known about him until I read Bill James. [/ QUOTE ] Didn't you ever see him play? |
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Re: Arky Vaughan
schilling is very similar to david cone
obviosuly schilling will be remebered for the bloody suck be hes the best starting pitcher in baseball in the last 15-20 years. Rube Waddel was basically a functional retard. Ty Cobb used to send fire trucks to drive the by stadium when waddel was getting ready to pitch and waddel would go chase the fire trucks. Opponents also gave him toys to distract him. |
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Re: Arky Vaughan
also in the one season that walks were counted as hits tip oneil was given credit for batting .492 although when walks were removed it became 430ish
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also in the one season that walks were counted as hits tip oneil was given credit for batting .492 although when walks were removed it became 430ish [/ QUOTE ] In retrospect, a very misleading choice, which has lead to all kinds of wrongheadedness throughout the years... |
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Re: Arky Vaughan
I used to date his great-aunt. Helluva stud horse player, IIRC.
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Re: Arky Vaughan
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[ QUOTE ] Kevin Brown had one of the most insane peaks ever. Another great example: Tris Speaker. How about Dick Allen? If you want a modern day example, Gary Sheffield. [/ QUOTE ] Don't think I buy Speaker in this debate. He's constantly mentioned with Cobb, Mays, Mantle et al in greatest cf talks and has been in my 30 years as a ballfan. Little known fact; Speaker was the only known member of both the BBHOF and the KKK, but this is back when the Klan was basically a social club. Here's a few others for you guys to check out: Sam Crawford Ed Walsh Joe McGinnity Old Hoss Radbourne (you'll like his '84 season) Three-finger brown Ed Walsh Jack Chesbro Heinie Manusch Chuck Klein Al Simmons Gabby Hartnett Rube Marguard ('Rube' was essentionally 'donkey' a century ago) Sliding Billy Hamilton Hugh Duffy Tuck Turner (Look at his 1894 and realize he was his team's fourth outfielder. Then, look tat he other three.) Kid Nichols Ken Williams (The first 30-30 man by decades) Smokey Joe Wood Eddie Collins Home Run Baker Adie joss Hal newhouser Dazzy Vance (Note the age at which he started pitching) babe Herman Johnny Mize (HR/SO) Tip O'Neill Used to be I could have built this list off the top of my head. now, a quick look at the year by year ops/era leaders for each team suffices. Those Pirates were a pretty good team. With Arky and the Waner brothers, they had three Hall of famers at their peaks and the end-of-career Pie Traynor made it four HOF's total. [/ QUOTE ] a very large number of the players you listed are products of their era. |
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True. most of the names stuck with me from a childhood that didn't include OpS+, EqA, et al. Still fun to look at.
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