JTs, top pair vs tag.

[holdme]

yeah i would check flop because of bb coldcall i just noticed...

[dragonystic]

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OP is dead against the range CO elects to call the cbet with

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if this is true, then you are right.

i wasnt putting him on THAT tight of a range though.

a 23/17's raising range from the CO is quite large. and after the BB coldcalled, CO is getting even better odds to call with a wide variety of hands.

[sixhigh]

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i wasnt putting him on THAT tight of a range though.


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By betting the flop Kimpan already heavily overrepresents the strength of his hand (considering he plays quite straightforward and tight normally).
And i doubt villain is bad enough to call preflop with trash or highly speculative hands and def. doesn't float this flop often enough.

[dragonystic]

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Hand 1: 74.656% 74.66% 00.00% 3252 0.00 { TT+, 88, T9s, 98s, 87s }

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am i being leveled with this range? in any case, im done with this thread.

dont 3bet JT, save yourself this kind of headache

[AnthonyH]

Don't listen to dragon, he's pretty much dead wrong in this case.

3-betting JTs is perfectly fine in this spot, but keep in mind this type of flop is not ideal. First and foremost 3-betting JTs is a semi-bluff pf and you hope to take the pot down there. You are not looking to stack off when you flop TP with JTs. On the flop, I like sixhigh's analysis all the way.

[kolotoure]

3-betting JT is fine, and c/d turn is std here

[Kimpan]

So the better line here would be to check flop?