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NLCASH 1/2 - Two strong hands face shove from possible maniac
About 5 hands against this guy, I stacked him with A3 against 37 in a raised pot already (we both flopped trips).
He hasn't shown anything yet that says he is a bad player, but I suppose he may just be furious that I stacked him. Full Tilt Poker Game #3541040368: Table Lion (heads up) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:56:40 ET - 2007/09/12 Seat 1: xSCWx ($348) Seat 2: akkxxl ($200) xSCWx posts the small blind of $1 akkxxl posts the big blind of $2 The button is in seat #1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to xSCWx [6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] xSCWx raises to $6 akkxxl calls $4 *** FLOP *** [3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] akkxxl checks xSCWx bets $10 akkxxl calls $10 *** TURN *** [3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] akkxxl checks xSCWx bets $18 akkxxl raises to $184, and is all in xSCWx has 15 seconds left to act xSCWx has requested TIME xSCWx: now this is an interesting one xSCWx folds Uncalled bet of $166 returned to akkxxl akkxxl mucks akkxxl wins the pot ($67.50) My thinking is that any sane player would either do a small raise or a call in this situation with the straight UNLESS they had 58. I found it hard to believe that he might be dumb enough to do this with air. I must admit that the A3 hand didn't cross my mind. Shortly after, this hand came up. Please don't use it in judging hand 1. Full Tilt Poker Game #3541085741: Table Lion (heads up) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:03:01 ET - 2007/09/12 Seat 1: xSCWx ($296.50) Seat 2: akkxxl ($249.30) xSCWx posts the small blind of $1 akkxxl posts the big blind of $2 The button is in seat #1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to xSCWx [A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] xSCWx raises to $6 akkxxl calls $4 *** FLOP *** [3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] akkxxl checks xSCWx bets $8 akkxxl raises to $22 xSCWx has 15 seconds left to act xSCWx calls $14 *** TURN *** [3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] akkxxl has 15 seconds left to act akkxxl bets $48 xSCWx has 15 seconds left to act xSCWx calls $48 *** RIVER *** [3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] akkxxl bets $173.30, and is all in xSCWx has 15 seconds left to act xSCWx has requested TIME xSCWx calls $173.30 My thinking in this is that we shouldn't be getting into this many big pots over the course of a few minutes so it is likely that he is trying to brute force his way through (he did do some damage on smaller hands). I was going to reraise on the flop but I decided that would induce a decision for stacks right there, and only against real hands. I decided to play it down for a chance to stack a bluff. His bet also didn't seem to be a value bet, although at this point I consider my hand to be face up. I suppose it could be of value from two pair or a set if they think I might call. |
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Re: NLCASH 1/2 - Two strong hands face shove from possible maniac
Had one is an easy call...if he's coolered you then pay the man
Hand 2 I think the river is a fold, you beat nothing but air and if you say this is still early in the game rather give it a few more hands to see if this is one of his regular tendecies, if it is then you'll stack him in no time, if it isnt then you dodged a bullet |
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Re: NLCASH 1/2 - Two strong hands face shove from possible maniac
hand one could also be 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]x[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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Re: NLCASH 1/2 - Two strong hands face shove from possible maniac
I fold hand 2 without a better read and snap call hand 1. You see retarded non-straight hands more than you see 58 here.
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Re: NLCASH 1/2 - Two strong hands face shove from possible maniac
1 is a snapcall for me as well.
2 is kinda close imo, but if i folded 1 i'd be more inclined to call. |
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Re: NLCASH 1/2 - Two strong hands face shove from possible maniac
Hand two is so god damn sick. Honestly AJ is good here a decent amount of time, look at the action thus far, I don't think your hand is as face up as you think it is. TT/33/AT/a9/a3 are beating you, if your hand is face up and is an obvious Ax hand. If you believe he is a good player I think TT can be ruled out. 33/AT/a9/a3 are def in his range, but a3 would be one hell of a well-played and tightly played hand. AT, also I feel would bet smaller on turn, though this of course is not positive. a9 and a6 would be interesting as well but I feel the most likely hands are 33 or XX KQ/KJ type hands the way he has played it thus far. Of course his reverse range for you is an ace, but also includes smaller pp's. a good question is how often has he c/r you and what were your subsequent lines. i feel i am analyzing this hand a lot on my HU game which easily calls decent sized pairs on this flop against any type of aggressive players, therefore augmenting my opponents range in this spot. na mean.
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Re: NLCASH 1/2 - Two strong hands face shove from possible maniac
I agree with the generel opinion, definitely calling hand 1.
With this limited knowledge about villian I think you will have to fold hand 2, you are probably up against 2 pair/set. |
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Re: NLCASH 1/2 - Two strong hands face shove from possible maniac
Hand 1 is a call unless you are up against a solid opponent and the stacks are very deep which isn't the case here.
Hand 2 is a fold. Ask yourself - would he bluff me here, ace on the flop, two calls - unless he is a retard, this is a fold. |
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Re: NLCASH 1/2 - Two strong hands face shove from possible maniac
For hand 1 would you guys still call if the pot was $30? $5?
The results from hand 2 although this obviously isn't standard: *** SHOW DOWN *** akkxxl shows [2s 4c] Ace Ten high xSCWx shows [Ah Jc] a pair of Aces xSCWx wins the pot ($498.10) with a pair of Aces akkxxl is sitting out |
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