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Re: JJ hand vs. Scary Tiger
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wow scary tiger has a nitty reputation if this 3bet is questioned... [/ QUOTE ] I'm not really sure about that - isn't a river C/R generally like the least player-dependant sign of strength? I mean you could argue he doesn't have a flush but it's less unlikely than AJ/KJ/QJ which I don't think ever get played like this... Nits & lags alike will C/R a river'd 2pair or better here. It sounds stupid because it's poker, but I don't really care that much who I'm up against here (unless you have a good 'flop donk range' read)...it seems like a simple math problem of weighing 2pair hands vs. straight. |
#12
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Re: JJ hand vs. Scary Tiger
"weighing 2pair hands vs. straight."
yeah and hands that have 2pair have to donk/call the flop and check call the turn club. 95s no flush draw calls turn? J5 doesn't c/r flop? 65 donks a J96 flop 3-way and calls on that turn? 2handed said: "He may have flopped two pair or a set," i really doubt he played flopped two pair or a set this way on the flop or turn. only 87 makes sense. |
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Re: JJ hand vs. Scary Tiger
If I donked out 78 on the flop it was a multitabling error, are you sure I didn't c/r flop and you 3-bet? I probably flopped a pair like 95 and J5 and rivered two pair and was trying to take one big pair to value town. I definitely don't have a flush.
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Re: JJ hand vs. Scary Tiger
You had 95s. You definitely donked/called flop.
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Re: JJ hand vs. Scary Tiger
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You had 95s. You definitely donked/called flop. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I was just saying I wouldn't lead 78. I don't donk in HU situations, there was a guy in the SB. |
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Re: JJ hand vs. Scary Tiger
i love how no one even thinks about scarys range they just like yeah 3 ball or yeah call the answer is so freakin obv if u just think about ur hand vs his river 3 ball calling range, on such a wacked out board.
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Re: JJ hand vs. Scary Tiger
Think itīs a call. 97,76,75,87 seem more likely than rivered 2 pair to me and you lay 2:1.
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Re: JJ hand vs. Scary Tiger
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Think itīs a call. 97,76,75,87 seem more likely than rivered 2 pair to me and you lay 2:1. [/ QUOTE ] Board doesn't have a gutshot, although it was when he first posted it. It's 4569J. |
#19
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Re: JJ hand vs. Scary Tiger
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[ QUOTE ] Super easy 3 bet IMO. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah definitely. -DeathDonkey [/ QUOTE ] Yep... I dont see ST donking 78 here on the flop.. Its very likely a weak made hand.. When he c/r the river, its very likely 2 pair. ST would know that you think a donk is FOS, and its unlikely to take down the pot 3-way so I doubt hes donking on a board like this with 78... My guess is his flop donk was looking for a raise from a draw to knock out a better hand that SB may have or a weak draw + overcards. easy 3-bet unless you think ST has a strategy oriented around donking in 3-way pots.. My guess is like most TAGs, he doesnt and his flop donk is a weak made hand... |
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Re: JJ hand vs. Scary Tiger
Heisenberg, that is a well articulated version of what I was thinking during the hand.
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