nit on nit violence, pt 2

[DJ Sensei]

3bet pre all day against that kind of guy

as played, flop is obv call, turn is probably a fold

[FireStorm]

I could see raising the flop, but it's a set too often to do so, calling is fine. We fold the turn because our hand is basically faceup if we smoothcall. Once he bets the turn $130 his range starts to have less and less 99 etc.

[Nielsio]

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3bet pre all day against that kind of guy

as played, flop is obv call, turn is probably a fold

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[jkkkk]

ok, I guess the original post was quite boring/straight forward, lets change it slightly..

you open the BN for 21, SB and BB call. SB is 25/20

same hole cards, same flop, same action (BB folds) do you take the same line?

if not how does it change on the flop and turn?

[kura0]

why is raising the flop so bad in position, given sb leads, he could also have some sort of draw/99/TT?
please explain your reasoning

[wdrzich]

fold turn, instantly berate the hijack for shatting all over relative position

[catcher193]

damn I guess I should cool off in these spots, im like always jamming/ calling with lower FDs, strait draws.

[winningfish]

Checking flop is fine, but raising is totally not bad at all.. you should've asked for 'nits' not to reply with advice ;-)

Ask yourself, if he's got a set, will he want to get it all in on the flop with just 1 other player left in the hand? You got position too. He would've just called and fired another barrel or CC'ed/CR'ed on the turn. Given a scare card he might've CF'ed the turn even.

[JKratzer]

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Ask yourself, if he's got a set, will he want to get it all in on the flop with just 1 other player left in the hand?

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of course he would

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You got position too.

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which is why calling is good, we get to see the turn and his action before investing our stack

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Given a scare card he might've CF'ed the turn even.

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most scare cards make our hand, so this is a bad thing