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Old 08-23-2007, 09:36 AM
tizzl tizzl is offline
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Default Calulating the odds for suited Connectors (OESD and Flushdraw)

Hi,

i´m playing poker for some weeks and i´m interessted in understanding some of the math behind calculating the odds.

I´m especially interessed in calculating them for suited connectors.

Here is my demand:

Can somebody show how to calculate the odds for flopping a:

1. OESD with suited connector
2. a four flush with a suited connector
3. for both together

I still know the odds (use pokeroffice) but i ´d got some problems to clear my errors in reasoning so it would be great if somebody could do that using some examples.


regards
1.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:26 PM
jay_shark jay_shark is offline
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Default Re: Calulating the odds for suited Connectors (OESD and Flushdraw)

Say you have 10-j s . Here are the flop possibilities :

1) q-k-x where x is not an ace or a 9 : 4*4*34 +4c2*4*2 = 592.

But I've also included some cases where you have a better draw; for instance, a flush draw , which has to be omitted . This happens 34 + 8*4 + 8*4 + 3+3 = 107

592-107 = 485 . Since there are 3 different pairs of cards that gives you an oesd , you multiply this number by 3 and note that these events are mutually exclusive .

The answer is 485*3/50c3 = 0.0742...

2) 11c2*39/50c3 = 0.1094...
3) In order to do 1 , you need to know 3 so the answer to 3 is 107*3/50c3 = 0.0163.....
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: Calulating the odds for suited Connectors (OESD and Flushdraw)

[ QUOTE ]
Hi,

i´m playing poker for some weeks and i´m interessted in understanding some of the math behind calculating the odds.

I´m especially interessed in calculating them for suited connectors.

Here is my demand:

Can somebody show how to calculate the odds for flopping a:

1. OESD with suited connector
2. a four flush with a suited connector
3. for both together

I still know the odds (use pokeroffice) but i ´d got some problems to clear my errors in reasoning so it would be great if somebody could do that using some examples.


regards
1.

[/ QUOTE ]

It gets pretty complicated when you factor in things like "do I really want to flop a flush draw on a paired board?" Not all flush draws are created equal.
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Old 08-23-2007, 04:52 PM
BruceZ BruceZ is offline
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Default Re: Calulating the odds for suited Connectors (OESD and Flushdraw)

[ QUOTE ]
Hi,

i´m playing poker for some weeks and i´m interessted in understanding some of the math behind calculating the odds.

I´m especially interessed in calculating them for suited connectors.

Here is my demand:

Can somebody show how to calculate the odds for flopping a:

1. OESD with suited connector
2. a four flush with a suited connector
3. for both together

I still know the odds (use pokeroffice) but i ´d got some problems to clear my errors in reasoning so it would be great if somebody could do that using some examples.


regards
1.

[/ QUOTE ]

See this post and its associated links.
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Old 08-23-2007, 06:41 PM
Tiki Tiki is offline
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Default Re: Calulating the odds for suited Connectors (OESD and Flushdraw)

This is also a good post here.
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