another stud/8 hand I played badly

[Alchemist]

Where do I get aggressive here? Raising 4th doesn't seem right. My default play is to just fold 4th but I was a slightly tilty and figured calling wasn't terrible anyway.

What about 5th? Bet out or maybe check-raise it?


7 Card Stud High-Low ($1/$2), Ante $0.20, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.40 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 6: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (2.65 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 3: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls

5th Street - (3.33 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 3: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 6: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___folds

6th Street - (6.33 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 3: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

River - (9.33 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___bets
Seat 3: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___folds
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

Total pot: (11.33 BB - $22.65)

[Beavis68]

why are you playing QQ vs a K and a 54? fold 4th.

[Alchemist]

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why are you playing QQ vs a K and a 54? fold 4th.

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- The K limped on 3rd
- A King is dead
- He checked 4th, which really makes me doubt he has KK

Had he led 4th I would have folded. I'm nearly closing the action and I felt it was worth seeing 5th.

[Andy B]

Folding fourth would have been reasonable. I think you played it OK, although I think you should have gotten in one raise with Aces-up when the third man was still in.

[xxeximusxx]

folding fourth is the best play here, you will never feel you have the best hand calling down here and everystreet will get worse and worse

[adanthar]

since you didn't fold fourth, raise fifth

[lucid75]

I think playing the QQ vs the K up is ok. You gotta raise 5th. With the cards that eventually come down, I feel ok about betting all the way down if 54A flat calls and doesn't 3bet. Keep betting if he flat calls and hope he busts out and makes two small pair. If he 3 bets, call down.