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Stars Warmup - Did I miss value??
Villain is unknown to me, 20 hands in, also not i got disconnected for like 50 seconds on turn.
I weak lead hoping to bet 3 bet. Weak lead on turn was because that card is great for a bluffraise by villain with a ton of hands he can just call flop with. I think. Feedback appreciated. PokerStars Game #11447804444: Tournament #57254865, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (50/100) - 2007/08/12 - 13:00:34 (ET) Table '57254865 35' 9-max Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: DonkvFish (10100 in chips) Seat 2: eldonapoli (9525 in chips) Seat 3: counterfit17 (10300 in chips) Seat 4: Triplestitch (8850 in chips) Seat 5: CutiePi314 (9625 in chips) Seat 6: LaMatte (10175 in chips) Seat 7: BSTLCU72 (9625 in chips) Seat 8: Machiavellii (10300 in chips) Seat 9: isopaisti (11400 in chips) isopaisti: posts small blind 50 DonkvFish: posts big blind 100 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to counterfit17 [Td 9d] eldonapoli: folds counterfit17: calls 100 Triplestitch: raises 300 to 400 CutiePi314: folds LaMatte: folds BSTLCU72: folds Machiavellii: calls 400 isopaisti: folds DonkvFish: folds counterfit17: calls 300 *** FLOP *** [2d 9h Ts] counterfit17: bets 500 Triplestitch: folds Machiavellii: calls 500 *** TURN *** [2d 9h Ts] [9s] counterfit17: bets 800 Machiavellii: raises 1500 to 2300 counterfit17 is disconnected counterfit17 is connected counterfit17: calls 1500 *** RIVER *** [2d 9h Ts 9s] [Ac] counterfit17: checks Machiavellii: checks *** SHOW DOWN *** counterfit17: shows [Td 9d] (a full house, Nines full of Tens) Machiavellii: mucks hand counterfit17 collected 6950 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 6950 | Rake 0 Board [2d 9h Ts 9s Ac] Seat 1: DonkvFish (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 2: eldonapoli folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: counterfit17 showed [Td 9d] and won (6950) with a full house, Nines full of Tens Seat 4: Triplestitch folded on the Flop Seat 5: CutiePi314 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: LaMatte folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: BSTLCU72 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: Machiavellii (button) mucked [Th Jh] Seat 9: isopaisti (small blind) folded before Flop |
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Re: Stars Warmup - Did I miss value??
I'm looking to shove the river, so I'm looking commit him beforehand. OOP, to this board, we're getting action or we're not. I like a small 3-bet to 4500 on the turn and a shove on any river.
Too many rivers will shut him down in relation to the rivers where he'll improve and the chances he has a 9. |
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Re: Stars Warmup - Did I miss value??
He's showing some strength, I just shove the turn and expect to get called a decent % of the time. Gotta bet the river since that A may scare his one pair hands.
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Re: Stars Warmup - Did I miss value??
I think so..my first thought was why didn't you bet the river before I re-read your title.
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Re: Stars Warmup - Did I miss value??
I rarely open limp here pf but a lot of people do 100 deep so I guess that's fine as long as you aren't only and/or always limping speculative hands, and I donk this flop 3 handed even less often, although I might be more tempted to go for the b/3b HU (but even then its not my default on this flop w/o reads).
Also, yes, you lost substantial value, the chips have to get in here. If he had raised your 800 to like 2k or less you might think about how to extract, when he goes to more than that I shove and expect a call. |
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Re: Stars Warmup - Did I miss value??
I hate the river check.
You shouldn't have an ace but the ace is irrationally scary to bad opponents who will check behind with Tx or JJ-KK. I don't hate not three betting the turn because we will miss value if he finds a fold with Tx, JQ, or an overpair that he finds a fold with (tournament life concerns) but calling the turn is under the assumption that we can get value on the river. I do think that the call is marginally -ev but it allows us to get another 2500 chips on the river a lot despite the fact that it costs us the chance to stack him |
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