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NL200 - OOP with KK vs coldcaller
Villain is 20/7/1.4 through 300 hands. By the way, this is a full-ring table, just with one sitting out and other who just joined and hadn't posted yet.
Full Tilt Poker No Limit Hold'em Cash Game $1/$2 Blinds 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) <u>Moldman (SB): $260.70</u> BB: $99.60 <u>UTG: $250.60</u> MP: $22.45 CO: $208.60 BTN: $239.80 Preflop: Moldman is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players) UTG calls $2.00, MP calls $2.00, CO folds, BTN folds, <font color="red">Moldman raises to $10.00</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $8.00, MP calls $8.00 Flop: ($32) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players) <font color="red">Moldman bets $24.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $48.00</font>, MP folds, Moldman calls $24.00 Turn: ($128) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) Moldman ?? |
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Re: NL200 - OOP with KK vs coldcaller
I think pocket 3s or 4s are in villians UTG limp range, and the flush got there on the turn. I guess you have a flush draw that might already be beat... I might call a tiny bet, but I probably check/fold.
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Re: NL200 - OOP with KK vs coldcaller
i think you should have tried to take it down on the flop by 3 betting him A.I his range would have 33, 44, TT but theres only 3 hands that beat you know and AA would have called then raised PF ...
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Re: NL200 - OOP with KK vs coldcaller
I would bet more preflop, like $14.
Flop minraise from an UTG limper is pretty scary, but I would call. Turn idk...I guess check/fold or check/call depending on how much he bets (you have some more outs now). Vs some players I would get the chips in but judging by his stats and flop play this guy prob flopped big. |
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Re: NL200 - OOP with KK vs coldcaller
12 or 14 preflop
c/c or c/rai turn depending on how you feel. |
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Re: NL200 - OOP with KK vs coldcaller
Bet/fold sucks, Bet/call sucks more.
PUSH is reckless and is turning your hand into a semi-bluff. It might work though if this guy will fold a set. I don't really like option though, but it's interesting. Check/call MIGHT be ok depending on the numbers (I believe a diamond wins for us if it doesn't pair the board) Check/fold MIGHT be ok depending on the numbers check/raise all-in probably isn't good. If he is betting this board, he probably considers himself committed and he will have a better hand most likely. |
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Re: NL200 - OOP with KK vs coldcaller
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Bet/fold sucks, Bet/call sucks more. PUSH is reckless and is turning your hand into a semi-bluff. It might work though if this guy will fold a set. I don't really like option though, but it's interesting. Check/call MIGHT be ok depending on the numbers (I believe a diamond wins for us if it doesn't pair the board) Check/fold MIGHT be ok depending on the numbers check/raise all-in probably isn't good. If he is betting this board, he probably considers himself committed and he will have a better hand most likely. [/ QUOTE ] I think your thoughts are off. Betting for value is an awesome play here vs many players, and not a terrible play vs an unknown. And you're probably gonna have to call a push. C/c is always at least ok. C/r is always at least reasonably ok. We have an awesome hand. |
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Re: NL200 - OOP with KK vs coldcaller
For those of you who are suggesting a check/call...
I checked turn, he bet 50. So, that leaves him $142 behind if I call. Assuming I check/call, what are the plans for the river if it's a) a diamond? b) a K? c) anything else? |
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Re: NL200 - OOP with KK vs coldcaller
Yeah actually the more I think about it I don't think you should fold this hand ever.
The problem with 20/7/1.4 types is that you never know when they are playing AT or JJ like its the nuts here. |
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Re: NL200 - OOP with KK vs coldcaller
Do you believe if we get all-in here we will be getting the best of it?
Because if you bet and he raises, we are pretty much getting all-in right? And if we check/raise all-in we obv. are going to be all-in, though I guess there is a chance he could fold a set or something, but it seems like he'd be getting too good a price to fold. The problem with betting for value is that we pretty much will be committing ourselves to the pot when we bet, so I don't like it. I certainly could be wrong, but that's what i'm thinking. |
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