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Old 08-01-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Because its a TAG, I don\'t fold ($50 Full Tilt)

From memory--

Villain and I both have full stacks. Villain has TAG stats. As such I've been stealing his blinds.

Its folded to me in the SB with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I raise to $2. Villain calls.

FLOP ($4) - A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I bet $3. Villain raises to $7. I call.

TURN ($18) - 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check. Villain bets $9. I call.

RIVER ($36) - 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I check. Villain bets $25. I call.

The reason I played this hand as I did is entirely because he was a TAG (something like 18/12/2) and because of how I read his actions and his bet sizing. I have my own ideas why this was right to me but not sure how others will feel.

I debate whether or not I should have either raised the turn or led out but am not sure that's better either. (to be honest, I never really considered folding... but I'm curious to hear if others think otherwise)

(I actually this hand is interesting only because I fold this hand to a non-TAG... I felt like calling and only calling seemed right because the player was TAG)

Anyone?
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: Because its a TAG, I don\'t fold ($50 Full Tilt)

Good Tags don't play like this with air. You have put yourself in a tough situation. When you called turn bet, what did you think you were beating based on Villian's stats?
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: Because its a TAG, I don\'t fold ($50 Full Tilt)

i raise turn, i think you'll get him to check most rivers there if hes a tag because your raise on the turn shows great strength, you could then put out a blocking bet and see how he reacts, the way it went he could have fired a pot bet which would have been a much more expensive call... based on your reads, i don't find it spewy, because u seem confident, but i want to minimize the monies i can lose if he actually ends up having a hand ( i hope this is also one of the few tags who can triple barrel as well)
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: Because its a TAG, I don\'t fold ($50 Full Tilt)

He probably showed you A4 or A8.
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: Because its a TAG, I don\'t fold ($50 Full Tilt)

edit- check most rivers without the nuts, i think he might even be checking aj there with strength shown on the turn-- i disagree with hunt because you haven't shown real strength, a tag could take this and run with it, thinking you have middle pair and don't have the ace, but don't think he can fire a triple barrel
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: Because its a TAG, I don\'t fold ($50 Full Tilt)

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He probably showed you A4 or A8.

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I don't think this gets posted if the TAG doesn't show either a busted flush draw or QQ-KK, something like that.

I doubt AJ or AQ is playing this way, maybe not even AK. The flop pseudo-minraise looks pretty fishy, and I'm not sure what the goal of that is. So from that perspective, it seems like if he's got you beat it's because he has a set. I guess he might get bluffy with KK here, and there are some flush draws in his range, but nevertheless it seems like it's probably a fairly close calldown.
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: Because its a TAG, I don\'t fold ($50 Full Tilt)

Half pot bet on the turn, then a 2/3 pot bet on the river..geez did he show A3 or A5?

I can understand the call down, what about a check call on the flop to keep the pot small as possible, since you really dont have a big hand?
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: Because its a TAG, I don\'t fold ($50 Full Tilt)

Tags don't call with worse aces.. they reraise preflop with better aces.. cept for maybe AT, AJ, and he's not playing that way with those.

Looks like he has a set.. or air.. and looks like air from the 1/2 pot on turn.. then bomb the river line. I'm gonna guess QKh or JQh
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: Because its a TAG, I don\'t fold ($50 Full Tilt)

gump if you were hero in that situation would you raise turn to get a cheap showdown? or am i totally off by thinking that
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: Because its a TAG, I don\'t fold ($50 Full Tilt)

how are you getting a cheap showdown out of position?
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