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Old 03-04-2006, 09:21 PM
gharp gharp is offline
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Default Time to get sexy?

I'm always looking for spots to try this. How's this one?

It's my first hand at the table and I know nothing useful about the players:

Cryptologic
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 3 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3SB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="cc3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, SB folds.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="cc3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks...
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Old 03-04-2006, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: Time to get sexy?

Value bet. My first instinct when I see someone limp UTG is fish/calling station, so I think they check through with A7, KJ or hearts quite a bit.
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Old 03-04-2006, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: Time to get sexy?

If he checks you win 0, if he calls you win 1, if he bet/calls you win 2. So he needs to bet this 1 in every 3 times for this to be profitable.

If he bet/calls 33% then this is fine, I just don't see it.

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Old 03-04-2006, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: Time to get sexy?

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If he checks you win 0, if he calls you win 1, if he bet/calls you win 2. So he needs to bet this 1 in every 3 times for this to be profitable.

If he bet/calls 33% then this is fine, I just don't see it.


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I think you're assuming he automatically calls when you bet and never bluffs when you check. I don't think that's right.
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Old 03-04-2006, 09:50 PM
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If you knew his stats then its better. What is villains range and bluffing range?

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Old 03-04-2006, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: Time to get sexy?

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If he checks you win 0, if he calls you win 1, if he bet/calls you win 2. So he needs to bet this 1 in every 3 times for this to be profitable.

If he bet/calls 33% then this is fine, I just don't see it.


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I think you're assuming he automatically calls when you bet and never bluffs when you check. I don't think that's right.

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Also, what about the times when he hits some kind of 2 pr on the river? Then you would porbably get 3 bets instead of 2 by betting out rather than check raising.
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Old 03-04-2006, 09:56 PM
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If he checks you win 0, if he calls you win 1, if he bet/calls you win 2. So he needs to bet this 1 in every 3 times for this to be profitable.

If he bet/calls 33% then this is fine, I just don't see it.


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I think you're assuming he automatically calls when you bet and never bluffs when you check. I don't think that's right.

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Also, what about the times when he hits some kind of 2 pr on the river? Then you would porbably get 3 bets instead of 2 by betting out rather than check raising.

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The time he raises 2p IMO is low if he has just called the whole way and limped UTg.

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Old 03-04-2006, 09:59 PM
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I still think the combination of the two makes me lean towards betting out almost all of of the time.
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Old 03-04-2006, 10:01 PM
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I still think the combination of the two makes me lean towards betting out almost all of of the time.

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I bet this out almost 100% otherwise it makes people scared to bet into you if you check on the river, which you often want.

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Old 03-04-2006, 10:34 PM
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Bet this everytime, it's not close
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