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Old 07-09-2007, 12:43 AM
Jeffage Jeffage is offline
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30-60 Bellagio. I have 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the BB, 3 people limp, SB limps and I check.

Flop comes 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I bet, unknown UTG (30-something) raises, folded to a player in LP who 3-bets. Folded back to me and I 4-bet, UTG calls cold and LP calls. I know LP, and he plays decently in a generally straightforward manner and respects my game.

Turn card comes the J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Your action and plan for the rest of the hand?

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Jeff
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: Flopping the Joint

bet turn call down raise.
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:09 AM
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That's not the joint. That's a jalopy.
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Old 07-09-2007, 08:58 AM
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Default Re: Flopping the Joint

I'd check the turn and reevaluate when the action is back on me. I've been in this exact spot before and it's obviously very hard to get away from this hand. But if it's 2 more big bets back to you on the turn I think you're pretty much cooked. A lot depends on what you think the guy in LP thinks you have.
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: Flopping the Joint

Put him on JTs and open muck?

That is a pretty sick turn card but I think you have to bet. put pressure on UTG and make sure no one gets any free cards. Deal with a raise when it comes, depending on how and from where.
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:48 AM
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Put him on JTs and open muck?

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No, I didn't say that. I said I would reevaluate when it came back to me. The last sentence of my post is what I'd be thinking about during the turn action.
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:25 PM
Fianchetto Fianchetto is offline
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bet, and call down a raise.

sure JT could be out there, but so could the same hand as yours, or two hearts.

if it goes bet, raise, 3-bet then you've got a problem.
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:29 PM
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if we check and it goes bet-raise are we calling?
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Old 07-09-2007, 02:04 PM
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Bet, call one raise, fold to two.
bc
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:30 PM
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Bet, call one raise, fold to two.
bc

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I think I like this the best. I don't like checking and folding to a bet and a raise because I think many would raise the turn with just a J.
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