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I know i spewed some chips here, but im not exactly sure where I'm supposed to let this hand go. I've looked at the hand and I think 6th street is where i should fold, but the pot odds are ridiculous. I'm a little lost on this game, if i should've folded on 5th let me know. I just need some good razz players to tell me how they would've played this so i can improve. I apologize for the format but i tried three different hand converters and none of them work.
Full Tilt Poker Game #2883559276: $4,000 Guarantee (21486574), Table 18 - 5000/10000 Ante 1000 - Limit Razz - 2:14:45 ET - 2007/07/08 Seat 3: azbigjim (60,408) Seat 4: 180467 (28,895) Seat 5: emptyman (6,130) Seat 6: WickTaylor (41,224) Seat 7: hafholdem222 (96,447) Seat 8: Metnut (56,396) azbigjim antes 1,000 180467 antes 1,000 emptyman antes 1,000 WickTaylor antes 1,000 hafholdem222 antes 1,000 Metnut antes 1,000 *** 3RD STREET *** Dealt to azbigjim [7s] Dealt to 180467 [8s] Dealt to emptyman [As] Dealt to WickTaylor [Qd] Dealt to hafholdem222 [Kh] Dealt to Metnut [5s Ac] [3h] hafholdem222 is high with [Kh] hafholdem222 brings in for 1,500 Metnut completes it to 5,000 azbigjim calls 5,000 180467 folds emptyman folds WickTaylor folds hafholdem222 folds *** 4TH STREET *** Dealt to azbigjim [7s] [Js] Dealt to Metnut [5s Ac 3h] [Jd] Metnut bets 5,000 azbigjim calls 5,000 *** 5TH STREET *** Dealt to azbigjim [7s Js] [6s] Dealt to Metnut [5s Ac 3h Jd] [9d] azbigjim bets 10,000 Metnut calls 10,000 Can't fold here right? Do I just go away here and not call the big bet? *** 6TH STREET *** Dealt to azbigjim [7s Js 6s] [4h] Dealt to Metnut [5s Ac 3h Jd 9d] [8c] I think i should've mucked here, but if hes paired up anywhere, or even if he has an 8 i think i have odds. Is this an easy muck? azbigjim bets 10,000 Metnut calls 10,000 *** 7TH STREET *** Dealt to Metnut [5s Ac 3h Jd 9d 8c] [Td] azbigjim bets 10,000 Metnut calls 10,000 |
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Tournament - Razz (5,000/10,000), Ante 1,000, Bring-In 1,500 (converter)
Seat 3: 60,408 Seat 4: 28,895 Seat 5: 6,130 Seat 6: 41,224 Seat 7: 96,447 Hero: 56,396 3rd Street - (1.20 SB) Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls Seat 4: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds Seat 6: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds Seat 7: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes 4th Street - (3.50 SB) Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets 5th Street - (2.75 BB) Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls 6th Street - (3.75 BB) Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls River - (5.75 BB) Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___bets Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls Total pot: (7.75 BB - 77,500) |
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I fold 5th street your opponent has 4 to a 7 high you have 4 to 9 high. I cant call river without a great read.
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Alchemist, do you have the most current version of the perverter? The link that it automatically generates wasn't right (I edited it). I'm pretty sure that this is a bug that greenage fixed a while back....I also find it curious that the pot size increased by only 1 BB between fifth and sixth.
I'm pretty sure that sixth and seventh are both folds. |
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hey this is fear from that same table...i missed that hand but jim had been playing very tight since ft began and him calling an utg complete def is a warning bell...that would be the last person id want calling..5th is a good spot to get away from this hand and calling 6th pretty much obligates you to call 7th. 5th and 6th are the most crucial spots a razzer must learn to save bets imo. nice job!gg!
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Alchemist, do you have the most current version of the perverter? The link that it automatically generates wasn't right (I edited it). I'm pretty sure that this is a bug that greenage fixed a while back....I also find it curious that the pot size increased by only 1 BB between fifth and sixth. I'm pretty sure that sixth and seventh are both folds. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I thought it was odd that the html link it put in there was no good. I updated it pretty recently and I admit I didn't check the output with a fine tooth comb to make sure it was perfect. The .exe I used was called FTStudConverter070620 *shrug* |
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Assuming he's got two babies in the hole here, which I would assume unless you've got a good read on the guy, you're behind like 62 - 38 on 5th here when I ran it through http://www.propokertools.com/simulat...tionEditor.jsp
I think 5th is really edgy. I don't blame you for calling. On 6th though you may be very well drawing dead. On the river I think you're pretty toasty. |
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hey this is fear from that same table...i missed that hand but jim had been playing very tight since ft began and him calling an utg complete def is a warning bell...that would be the last person id want calling..5th is a good spot to get away from this hand and calling 6th pretty much obligates you to call 7th. 5th and 6th are the most crucial spots a razzer must learn to save bets imo. nice job!gg! [/ QUOTE ] yea 5th street is a big spot there... its annoying cause i think i played good all night, but my inexperience in razz hurt me there. i guess i was more hoping he paired or was bluffing than actually thinking he did. sucks when you play poker for 3 hours and choke during the biggest hand of the tourney. |
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or get coolered by YOU with AA nut flush vs JJ ( flush ) and then blow out to a rivered gutshot. you played well bro, post tourney regrets are no fun! see you soon.
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[ QUOTE ] hey this is fear from that same table...i missed that hand but jim had been playing very tight since ft began and him calling an utg complete def is a warning bell...that would be the last person id want calling..5th is a good spot to get away from this hand and calling 6th pretty much obligates you to call 7th. 5th and 6th are the most crucial spots a razzer must learn to save bets imo. nice job!gg! [/ QUOTE ] yea 5th street is a big spot there... its annoying cause i think i played good all night, but my inexperience in razz hurt me there. i guess i was more hoping he paired or was bluffing than actually thinking he did. sucks when you play poker for 3 hours and choke during the biggest hand of the tourney. [/ QUOTE ]Well you still cashed though didn't you? I think that it'd be a good thing that you got so far in the tournament while being, as you say, inexperienced. It shows that maybe down the road with a little work you can be winning these. |
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