NL10 KK River Question

CaptVimes · #1 07-03-2007, 12:52 PM

Villain is 52/2/2.17 over 50 hands the only other hand I noticed was when he flopped a straight and one a big pot after open limping with 64o from mp1. Also, should I be betting bigger, for value, on flop and turn?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($1.95)
MP1 ($3.75)
MP2 ($5.25)
MP3 ($17.20)
CO ($9.50)
Button ($2.60)
SB ($3.80)
BB ($9.90)
Hero ($10.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $0.4, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.40, 2 folds, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold.

Flop: ($1.30) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, MP3 calls $1, SB folds.

Turn: ($3.30) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $2, MP3 calls $2.

River: ($7.30) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Hero? B/F, B/C, C/C?

RyanCMU · #2 07-03-2007, 12:55 PM

I c/c river

jack frost · #3 07-03-2007, 12:57 PM

I am bet folding here. I think there is allot times you see a 52/2 show down allot here that you do beat like a-10 or 10-j or even allot worse for that matter he could also a flush draw/pair. I could also see the argument for c/c here with the draw heavy board but I hate to give up any value against a player like this which is a leak of mine some times.

RyanCMU · #4 07-03-2007, 01:01 PM

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I am bet folding here. I think there is allot times you see a 52/2 show down allot here that you do beat like a-10 or 10-j or even allot worse for that matter he could also a flush draw/pair. I could also see the argument for c/c here with the draw heavy board but I hate to give up any value against a player like this which is a leak of mine some times.

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I didn't pay close enough attention to villains stats, and after looking back, I think that given his passive nature, this would be a good spot to b/f, since he probably won't bluff with his missed draws on the river, but he will call with a lot of worse hands.

So I change my answer to agree with Jack, b/f.

wafflemaker · #5 07-03-2007, 01:03 PM

C/C for me.

CazicT · #6 07-03-2007, 01:11 PM

Did he slowplay that flopped straight?

It's pretty easy to get away from this if we are raised at all right? If that's the case we might as well bet smallish, like 1/3 or 1/4 and lay down to a raise. We will lose about the same as a check/call, but win more the times he does have just a ten and decides to call.

I think this is better than a check/call, because I just don't see him bluffing this, he either has a weak made hand or a big made hand IMO, but rarely no hand AND the will to bluff.

xxrod17xx · #7 07-03-2007, 01:25 PM

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I c/c river

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Landlord79 · #8 07-03-2007, 02:03 PM

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I c/c river

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C/C = Great for pot control

Landlord79 · #9 07-03-2007, 02:07 PM

I'm okay here with one pair if the villain doesn't bet behind us. One pair is not a big pot hand!

CaptVimes · #10 07-03-2007, 02:38 PM

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Did he slowplay that flopped straight?

It's pretty easy to get away from this if we are raised at all right? If that's the case we might as well bet smallish, like 1/3 or 1/4 and lay down to a raise. We will lose about the same as a check/call, but win more the times he does have just a ten and decides to call.

I think this is better than a check/call, because I just don't see him bluffing this, he either has a weak made hand or a big made hand IMO, but rarely no hand AND the will to bluff.

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No nothing that good, called me down with QJo, don't ask me how I know that. It's making me tilt again just thinking about it and my play. That fold part of the bet/fold thing always gets me. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I think I like the C/C line here. I've been getting beat up by these high vpip players lately and I think I have been getting too aggressive(tilt) lately. Thanks.