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Old 07-02-2007, 12:28 PM
TomCollins TomCollins is offline
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Obama's campaign seems to be generated entirely from hype. Hype generates money a lot more easily than votes. I have yet to see him do anything more than speak in vague platitudes on issues, and nothing in his background suggests to me that he is qualified to be president.

I'll wholeheartedly support whoever the Dem nominee is, but Edwards and Hillary have both done much more to assure me that they actually have an agenda that they will seek to enact as president, rather than just an attitude.

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He is black. Can't we drop the requirements to compensate for his ancestors being slaves or something?
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:29 PM
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I would not vote for Obama or Hillary even if it came to him or Bush getting a 3rd term.....


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You did not fix my post because I'm voting for hillary

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Can you explain your position some? It's hard for me to understand someone's preferences being Hilary > GW > Obama.

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ummmmmmmm .. yeah im not getting that at all. the way i see it is.

Obama = idiot socialist w/ no real record other than some books & speeches which make him look like a populist moran.

Hillary = idiot socialist w/ a proven track record of lying and fear mongering to hold onto power at all costs.

color me confused as to why you think shes better.

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Female > Obama > Bush

It's just time for a woman president. The "most free" country on earth needs a woman in charge even if for 4 years so we can say we did it.

Besides I hate Radical Muslims and having her in charge rubs it in their backwards faces. Imagine the Taliban trying to negotiate with her hahahhahahah !!!

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First off you said "Obama>Bush" but also " I would not vote for Obama even if it came to him or Bush getting a 3rd term..." which I don't understand.

Second off why do you think it's important to have a woman (any woman, apparently?) president "to say we did it" but not have a black president for the same reason?

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A black president does not offend muslims.

and I did just get pwned on the Obama > Bush I would take obama over bush [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

As far as condolezzzzzza rice being president I said I would prefer a Female president [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:41 PM
The once and future king The once and future king is offline
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A black president does not offend muslims.

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Shame there are no Jewish candidates.
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:44 PM
Arnold Day Arnold Day is offline
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I would not vote for Obama or Hillary even if it came to him or Bush getting a 3rd term.....


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You did not fix my post because I'm voting for hillary

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Can you explain your position some? It's hard for me to understand someone's preferences being Hilary > GW > Obama.

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ummmmmmmm .. yeah im not getting that at all. the way i see it is.

Obama = idiot socialist w/ no real record other than some books & speeches which make him look like a populist moran.

Hillary = idiot socialist w/ a proven track record of lying and fear mongering to hold onto power at all costs.

color me confused as to why you think shes better.

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Calling Hillary and Obama idiots is pretty ridiculous. You can disagree with them but they are not idiots. I disagree with Bush and I think he is an idiot but they are two different things.
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:54 PM
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A black president does not offend muslims.

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Shame there are no Jewish candidates.

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At this point I'd vote for one.

You can call it silly but people vote for a president based on their beliefs in a god, or what they should do with trees, or a president that will ban abortion....

I'm voting for a president that will offend "radical" muslims. I would not say all muslims because I'm sure there are good muslims who don't force women to wear bags over their heads. And don't stone them and treat them like crap.
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:59 PM
Arnold Day Arnold Day is offline
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A black president does not offend muslims.

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Shame there are no Jewish candidates.

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At this point I'd vote for one.

You can call it silly but people vote for a president based on their beliefs in a god, or what they should do with trees, or a president that will ban abortion....

I'm voting for a president that will offend "radical" muslims. I would not say all muslims because I'm sure there are good muslims who don't force women to wear bags over their heads. And don't stone them and treat them like crap.

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Voting for a muslim president might offend them the most.
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:37 PM
NeBlis NeBlis is offline
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I would not vote for Obama or Hillary even if it came to him or Bush getting a 3rd term.....


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You did not fix my post because I'm voting for hillary

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Can you explain your position some? It's hard for me to understand someone's preferences being Hilary > GW > Obama.

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ummmmmmmm .. yeah im not getting that at all. the way i see it is.

Obama = idiot socialist w/ no real record other than some books & speeches which make him look like a populist moran.

Hillary = idiot socialist w/ a proven track record of lying and fear mongering to hold onto power at all costs.

color me confused as to why you think shes better.

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Calling Hillary and Obama idiots is pretty ridiculous. You can disagree with them but they are not idiots. I disagree with Bush and I think he is an idiot but they are two different things.

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There are no non-idiot socialists. Both are socialists and therefore idiots QED.

This is not to say that there are no intelligent or well meaning socialists. Simply that they ascribe to a system that has never worked, will never work, and causes more suffering than it intends to fix. You can be smart and still be an idiot.
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:50 PM
Arnold Day Arnold Day is offline
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I would not vote for Obama or Hillary even if it came to him or Bush getting a 3rd term.....


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You did not fix my post because I'm voting for hillary

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Can you explain your position some? It's hard for me to understand someone's preferences being Hilary > GW > Obama.

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ummmmmmmm .. yeah im not getting that at all. the way i see it is.

Obama = idiot socialist w/ no real record other than some books & speeches which make him look like a populist moran.

Hillary = idiot socialist w/ a proven track record of lying and fear mongering to hold onto power at all costs.

color me confused as to why you think shes better.

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Calling Hillary and Obama idiots is pretty ridiculous. You can disagree with them but they are not idiots. I disagree with Bush and I think he is an idiot but they are two different things.

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There are no non-idiot socialists. Both are socialists and therefore idiots QED.

This is not to say that there are no intelligent or well meaning socialists. Simply that they ascribe to a system that has never worked, will never work, and causes more suffering than it intends to fix. You can be smart and still be an idiot.

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Ok. I find your definition of idiot to be pretty idiotic. Saying things like all socialists are idiots makes it very difficult for intelligent people to get behind what you are saying even if you are right.
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Old 07-02-2007, 02:46 PM
NeBlis NeBlis is offline
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Ok. I find your definition of idiot to be pretty idiotic. Saying things like all socialists are idiots makes it very difficult for intelligent people to get behind what you are saying even if you are right.


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btw welcome to the forum.

I am sorry if people who subscribe to idiotic untenable concepts are idiots in my book. Maybe I should use a term like "willfully gullible" or "intentionally misguided". I'm not sure. It just seems easier and more direct to call a person who holds idiotic beliefs ... an idiot.
I'm not saying that they could not change and therefore lift the veil of idiocy. I suppose its the old "ignorance can be cured but stupidity is forever"
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Old 07-02-2007, 02:53 PM
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How does saying Hillary and Obama are both idiot socialists add anything to this thread? Do libertarians/ACists really have to troll every thread in this forum?
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