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Old 06-27-2007, 04:33 AM
potamophobia potamophobia is offline
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Default 50K - chip leader with ~30 remaining - 55 UTG

Full Tilt Poker Game #2782427274: The Fifty-Fifty (21080809), Table 111 - 2000/4000 Ante 500 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:20:45 ET - 2007/06/27
Seat 2: jozexb (67,849)
Seat 3: tedsfishfry (156,568)
Seat 4: Miamipuck (90,688)
Seat 5: potamophobia (200,392)
Seat 6: grapedrink07 (173,960)
Seat 8: ZFlash23 (56,634)
Seat 9: jbea6758 (121,030)
jozexb antes 500
tedsfishfry antes 500
Miamipuck antes 500
potamophobia antes 500
grapedrink07 antes 500
ZFlash23 antes 500
jbea6758 antes 500
tedsfishfry posts the small blind of 2,000
Miamipuck posts the big blind of 4,000
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to potamophobia [5s 5c]
potamophobia raises to 10,000
grapedrink07 folds
ZFlash23 folds
Smiley_Chicky (Observer): great site for locals ...pokercampus.com
jbea6758 has 15 seconds left to act
jbea6758 folds
jozexb has 15 seconds left to act
jozexb folds
tedsfishfry raises to 28,000
Miamipuck folds
potamophobia calls 18,000
*** FLOP *** [2s 7d Th]
Miamipuck: wow big fold
tedsfishfry checks
potamophobia bets 40,000
tedsfishfry calls 40,000
*** TURN *** [2s 7d Th] [2c]
tedsfishfry checks
potamophobia checks
*** RIVER *** [2s 7d Th 2c] [Qc]
tedsfishfry bets 88,068, and is all in
potamophobia has 15 seconds left to act
potamophobia has requested TIME
tedsfishfry: you can fold 88 now
potamophobia folds
Uncalled bet of 88,068 returned to tedsfishfry
tedsfishfry mucks
tedsfishfry wins the pot (143,500)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 143,500 | Rake 0
Board: [2s 7d Th 2c Qc]
Seat 2: jozexb (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: tedsfishfry (small blind) collected (143,500), mucked
Seat 4: Miamipuck (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: potamophobia folded on the River
Seat 6: grapedrink07 folded before the Flop
Seat 8: ZFlash23 folded before the Flop
Seat 9: jbea6758 folded before the Flop


I feel like I just gave him my chips in this hand. I came in with 55 UTG because the table had been respecting my raises.

I called his re raise with the intent of seeing a flop in position, and so that people would not think I was raising UTG with complete trash. In retrospect, I probably should have just folded preflop.

Once he checked the flop, I figured a bet had a fairly high chance for success. Once he called, I felt like I was getting slow played, so I checked the turn. When he bet big on the river, I almost called. He made the comment, "you can fold your 88 now", but I really wondered why he would make that comment if he wanted a call. Maybe I should have made a hero call, I dont know, but I wish I had just folded preflop and not gotten myself in this mess.

Here are more of my thoughts on the hand. To 3 bet the chip leaders UTG raise, he must have at least TT+/AQ+. To check the flop, I was thinking he was giving up with AQ or AK, or slow playing TT or AA. I was now almost certain he did not have JJ-KK, as I believe he would bet.

Once he called my bet, I figured it was not AK or AQ, because I think he would check raise or do something other than float me OOP. TT became his most likely hand in my eyes, with AA as second.

Now he checks the turn, and I tell myself I am done with the hand.

Then falls the river queen, and he pushes all in. My turn check pretty much tells him that my hand is marginal at best. I didnt expect him to push the river with TT or AA because there was no way he would think I would call him. So really I have no idea what is going on, and decide to fold. I feel like I got outplayed very badly in this hand, and would appreciate advice on all streets.

I still cant get a hand converter to work, so if someone could please link me to a good one it would be appreciated.
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Old 06-27-2007, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: 50K - chip leader with ~30 remaining - 55 UTG

Initially, you could also limp.

To the reraise fold > push > call.
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Old 06-27-2007, 03:05 PM
potamophobia potamophobia is offline
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Default Re: 50K - chip leader with ~30 remaining - 55 UTG

I just learned that villain is shaundeeb if this helps in anyones analysis.
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Old 06-27-2007, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: 50K - chip leader with ~30 remaining - 55 UTG

http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/

my hunch is that when he types in you can fold 88 now, he has 88 beat. Hes been around long enough to know what his line looks like to you, hes prob shoving the the river in the hopes you make a crying call with a midpair and hes obv nailed your range based on his comment. This is a tricky spot, Id be shocked if your 55 was good on the river. I'd prob call his reraise pre hoping to hit a 5, and if not just be done with the hand. whatever thats worth
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Old 06-27-2007, 03:40 PM
rppkoz rppkoz is offline
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Default Re: 50K - chip leader with ~30 remaining - 55 UTG

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I'd prob call his reraise pre hoping to hit a 5, and if not just be done with the hand.

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Agreed, I'm checking this flop back.
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Old 06-27-2007, 03:40 PM
8Adam8 8Adam8 is offline
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Default Re: 50K - chip leader with ~30 remaining - 55 UTG

Fold to 3bet.

You are not even close to deep enough to call in position. And Shaun's 3bet of an UTG raise is wayyy too strong to try and call in position to abuse him postflop.

Just fold to 3bet
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Old 06-27-2007, 04:09 PM
shaundeeb shaundeeb is offline
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Default Re: 50K - chip leader with ~30 remaining - 55 UTG

I was going to c/shove this flop vs you pretty sure you would call with your midpair I was quite angry when I didn't and I checked the turn knowing you are checking behind all but sets.
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Old 06-27-2007, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: 50K - chip leader with ~30 remaining - 55 UTG

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Fold to 3bet.

You are not even close to deep enough to call in position. And Shaun's 3bet of an UTG raise is wayyy too strong to try and call in position to abuse him postflop.

Just fold to 3bet

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Old 06-27-2007, 04:28 PM
potamophobia potamophobia is offline
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Default Re: 50K - chip leader with ~30 remaining - 55 UTG

Did you have AA here?
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Old 06-27-2007, 04:28 PM
JoeyJoJo Shabadu JoeyJoJo Shabadu is offline
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Default Re: 50K - chip leader with ~30 remaining - 55 UTG

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I was going to c/shove this flop vs you pretty sure you would call with your midpair I was quite angry when I didn't and I checked the turn knowing you are checking behind all but sets.

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Smells like jacks.
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