Poker Stars: VPP per hand - post-legislation edition

[Robin Foolz]

2/4 limit 6-max: .47vpp/hand; 63k hands

3/6 limit 6-max: .71vpp/hand; 30k hands

[kidpokeher]

Nice, thanks! Glad the limit guys are showing up to contribute.

[kidpokeher]

Updating the list. Still a lot of gaps to fill. Anyone?



6max NL Holdem
$.10/$.25 -
$.25/$.50 - .253
$.50/$1 - .33, .43
$1/$2 -
$2/$4 -
$3/$6 -
$5/$10 -
$10/$20 -
$25/$50 -

Full Ring NL Holdem
$.05/$.10 - .047
$.10/$.25 - .129
$.25/$.50 - .3576*
$.50/$1.0 - .36, .4117*
$1/$2 - .60, .56
$2/$4 - .65, .689
$3/$6 - .7336
$5/$10 - .9226
$10/$20 - .8976
$25/$50 -


6max Limit Holdem
$.10/$.20 -
$.25/$.50 -
$.50/$1 -
$1/$2 -
$2/$4 - .47
$3/$6 - .71
$5/$10 -
$10/$20 -
$15/$30 -
$30/$60 -

Full Ring Limit Holdem
$.10/$.20 -
$.25/$.50 -
$.50/$1 - .170*, .32, .2003*
$1/$2 - .39*, .362*, .3719
$2/$4 -
$3/$6 -
$5/$10 - 1.232
$10/$20 - 1.56
$15/$30 -
$30/$60 -



PLO blinds Table VPP/hand Hands
$0.50-$1 Full ring 0.63 11,502
$0.50-$1 6-max 0.65* 2,647

$1-$2 Full ring 0.97 11,492
$1-$2 6-max 0.96 10,326

$2-$4 Full ring 1.00* 8,924
$2-$4 6-max 0.96* 3,547

$3-$6 Full ring 1.29* 2,860
$3-$6 6-max 1.21* 846

$5-$10 Full ring 1.55* 1,025
$5-$10 6-max 1.45* 133



* Sample size of less than 10K hands. If I get two or more samples above 10K I'm dropping the smaller numbers.

[MicroBob]

1/2 limit holdem seems to be down a bit since pre-legislation.

But is this also a function of the double-points promo that led to some tighter games, particularly on that limit?

Anyone who only played during the double-points promo and reported their stats in this thread are probably more givng an indication of how the promo itself impacted the games instead of how post-legislation impacted them.

You need a post-legislation sample that did NOT come during the promo imo.

[MicroBob]

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anyone have any stats for 1/2 limit full? Is is safe to assume that the numbers would be close to double that of .5/1?

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kind of close-ish but this isn't the best of assumptions imo because it's not a direct relationship.

It comes when the pot reaches $8 at these stakes.

So that's an 8BB pot at .5/1 compared with a 4BB pot at 1/2.

1/2 will be a little tighter/tougher than .5/1 I assume, but probably not THAT significantly.
So the question becomes whether you get twice as many 4BB pots as you do 8BB pots at semi-similar stakes.

You got over .3 VPP per hand at .5/1.
There's no way you're going to get .6 VPP at 1/2.
More like .4 (or a little less from some of the data here)

[Dennisa]

Ive been playing FR 100NL a lot over the last few days. Over the past week, 23951 hands with an average rate of 0.404.

Dennisa

[CountingMyOuts]

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1/2 limit holdem seems to be down a bit since pre-legislation.

But is this also a function of the double-points promo that led to some tighter games, particularly on that limit?

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No question about it. I played 1/2 and 2/4 full ring limit during the promo and the VPP/hand were around 0.05 lower than before the promo.

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Anyone who only played during the double-points promo and reported their stats in this thread are probably more givng an indication of how the promo itself impacted the games instead of how post-legislation impacted them.

You need a post-legislation sample that did NOT come during the promo imo.

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Yes. Comparing the same time frames would probably be better, like Jan 1 to May 1 for both '06 and '07.

[Y2Dennis]

$.50/1.00 full ring limit 4,000 hands : .19 a hand.

[KLJ]

200NL 6max: .545 VPP/hand (over 180k hands this year)

[kidpokeher]

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200NL 6max: .545 VPP/hand (over 180k hands this week)

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