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Old 05-13-2007, 06:53 PM
Eriol Eriol is offline
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Default KTo on A high flop

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
10 players
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.4SB, 5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.2BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7.2BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises</font>, Hero folds, UTG+2 calls.

Results:
Final pot: 11.2BB


Looking back the hand I think I should fold the turn.
Do you think the flop call is bad? A raise or fold would be better?
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Old 05-13-2007, 07:09 PM
Jaran Jaran is offline
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Default Re: KTo on A high flop

Flop call is thin, especially since you really can't count the K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]/T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] as full outs. I'm not sure you can make up the deficit on the turn if you hit, so I would fold the flop. As played, def fold the turn.

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Old 05-13-2007, 08:17 PM
tyler_cracker tyler_cracker is offline
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Default Re: KTo on A high flop

i'm more excited about the flop call than jaran is, but agree that you can fold the turn.
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:23 PM
that_guy_33 that_guy_33 is offline
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Default Re: KTo on A high flop

Weird play from UTG+1 on the turn, but this is an easy turn fold. I probably wouldn't get involed on the flop with second pair and a drawy board.
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:39 PM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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Default Re: KTo on A high flop

its all fine
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Old 05-14-2007, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: KTo on A high flop

I would 3 bet the flop and hope for isolation and call down if its HU otherwise fold to any further aggression.
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Old 05-14-2007, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: KTo on A high flop

I fold the flop. I don't even think its that close.
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Old 05-14-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: KTo on A high flop

Small pot = fold flop.
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Old 05-14-2007, 02:54 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: KTo on A high flop

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I would 3 bet the flop and hope for isolation and call down if its HU otherwise fold to any further aggression.

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SSSSSSSSSPPPPEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!

There's already a caller between you and the bettor. How often do you actually isolate?

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I fold the flop. I don't even think its that close.

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Small pot = fold flop.

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NNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSSS!! !!!!!!! (Okay, folding here isn't nearly as bad as raising the flop, and it isn't a terrible fold.)

You're getting 7.5:1 immediate and the two players left to act in this pot have already checked. *MAYBE* you get check-raised here, but it's very likely they are calling or folding. I'd give hero 4-4.5 outs here, which means that he needs about 10:1 or 11:1. With two players in the pot, this means collecting either 1 bet from both players or collecting two bets from one player. Since hero has position on two players, he is very likely going to be able to get it, and very possibly more. A peel here is just fine.
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Old 05-14-2007, 03:13 PM
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NNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSSS!! !!!!!!! (Okay, folding here isn't nearly as bad as raising the flop, and it isn't a terrible fold.)

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You're over-counting your outs.
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