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Old 05-02-2007, 05:41 AM
BalugaWhale BalugaWhale is offline
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Default 15/30 slightly deep w/ bottom set

its a ftp deep 6 table
there are 3 fish with about 4k, and cts with 18k, so i sat on coles left and bought in for 4k
i raise utg w/ 22, fish calls me otb, i think cole calls also
flop is 862
i pot, fish calls, cole folds
pots now about 800
turn is a 7
i pot, he calls
river is a 9 (puke)
pot is about 2200ish
i check, he instashoves for a little over pot
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:08 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 slightly deep w/ bottom set

this depends on who the fish is.
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:11 AM
BalugaWhale BalugaWhale is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 slightly deep w/ bottom set

id never played w/ him before but hed just doubled up by flopping 2pair with 83s vs coles QQ on a 83T board
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:22 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 slightly deep w/ bottom set

I call, simply b/c in his eyes you could have an overpair just as easily as a set, and besides trying to bluff, he could be betting for value with any 2-pair type hand, or having tried to call you down w. JJ he realized they may not be good and is not trying to push you out. Plus, you have a set, and those simply should always get shown down regardless of anything else.

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Old 05-02-2007, 07:23 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 slightly deep w/ bottom set

How do you know he's a fish when you don't know anything about him?
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:34 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 slightly deep w/ bottom set

he just doubled up by flopping 2pair with 83s vs coles QQ
doubled up to 4000
at a 15/30 deep table
yah hes a fish
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 slightly deep w/ bottom set

Gross, I muck. Villain obv has some sort of showdown value and I think even a fish would check behind with 2pr on this board. I'm not gonna give him credit for being capable of turning bottom two into a bluff or something.
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 slightly deep w/ bottom set

Call here, most likey he has 2 pair and thinks he is good.
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 slightly deep w/ bottom set

this was a really bad call vs this guy, hes not dumb enough to think 2 pair is good and hes not smart enough to bluff with an obviously beat made hand, which basically all draws turned into
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Old 05-02-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 slightly deep w/ bottom set

From my perspective it looks like a call, because the board is ripe for bluffing, he rarely has a higher set, and i dont think he's gonna show up with a T/5 all that often given the action. But I dont know the dude.
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