bellagio 25-50: FPS leads to bad spot

[mikech]

or, "how i misplayed KK on every street."

wild game 4 or 5 nights ago. i got stacked on my very first hand for 5.3k on a pretty sick beat, so it prob'ly looks like i'm tilting a bit.

anyway, good aggressive player opens early to 175, one caller, i'm on the button with two red kings and make it 800 to go with about 12k behind. an orbit or two ago i'd made the exact same 3bet in position with rags, got no callers, and showed a 5. naturally, this time i get two calls, the open-raiser and the next player; they both cover me.

flop comes J 9 2 with two spades. they check to me, i bet here 95% of the time, but here i decide to check. mistake #1...

turn is a 5 or a 6, putting two diamonds on board. now the original raiser leads for 2100. other player folds, i call. prob'ly should've raised. mistake #2...

river is an offsuit ace. he leads for 6300. i...?

on one hand, i've under-repped my holding with the flop check, but on the other, it seems pretty obvious i have no better than a one-pair hand, so the ace is a good bluff card. can/should i call this big river bet?

yes, id call

[ArmenH]

Why would you call? What do you beat? I think you agree you completely mis-played the hand. Sure, you have under-repped your hand but calling the river bet is very marginal w/o information about villains hand or range. If you had bet the flop you can put villain on a range of hands, here it's just a guessing game. For him to open early and call a 3 bet oop he must have a pp or maybe an AJs...Most of the time he's gonna show up here with a set or top two pair is my guess.

[rebuyboy]

[ QUOTE ]
Why would you call? What do you beat?

[/ QUOTE ]
a bluff, u moran

[wtfsvi]

What kind of made hand can you have from his perspective? A pair of jacks or weaker is what you have represented. Does he expect you to be a hero and call that bet with a pair of jacks? If you have an ace, you have aces up (unless you had the nut flush draw on the turn), and a check raise will work better if he has the set. If you have a missed draw, a check raise will obviously work better if he has a set. A big river bet doesn't make sense for him if he has a strong hand. Not as long as he sticks to second level thinking anyway.

[Heir_Aparent]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Why would you call? What do you beat?

[/ QUOTE ]
a bluff, u moran

[/ QUOTE ]

[fslexcduck]

i call this without much thought if i got to the river this way. is that a leak?

[Slappz]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Why would you call? What do you beat?

[/ QUOTE ]
a bluff, u moran

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

Ya why fold when you can beat a BLUFF.

[Prevaricator]

[ QUOTE ]
i call this without much thought if i got to the river this way. is that a leak?

[/ QUOTE ]

imho yes

[ike]

A good guess at his preflop range makes a huge difference here. If its wide, he's probably bluffing both turn and river often with this board/action. However if he's fairly tight calling reraises OOP and it consists mostly of 99+, AQ+, there just aren't enough combinations you beat.