Blind defense checkup

private joker · #1 04-23-2007, 02:38 PM

Commerce 20. Villain in this hand is an aggressive blind-stealer and probably a pro. Doesn't play brilliantly but is probably a winner. Skinny, middle-aged Armenian who always seems to be looking for a table change to get the best of it. He yelled at a drunk Arab after a hand and they got into it, and he called the floorman over, reported the Arab's use of an obscenity, and got the guy kicked off the table.

Anyway.... Folded to him on the button and he predictably raises. SB folds, and I call in the BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Flop is KQ6. I checkraise, he calls.
Turn is 4. I bet, he calls.
River is 4. I check intending to call.

Standard?

brettbrettr · #2 04-23-2007, 02:45 PM

I think I'd rather bet the river and not check-raise the flop.

Hobbs. · #3 04-23-2007, 02:46 PM

do you think he bets A high on the river more often than he calls? I kind of feel like betting here is better than check/calling, but would need to more info about the player.

private joker · #4 04-23-2007, 02:50 PM

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I think I'd rather bet the river and not check-raise the flop.

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Can you go into detail why you don't like the flop checkraise? I got this from reading Stox's book; there's something there about getting your opponent to fold 6-outers on the turn. If I'm representing a K or Q here, he'll fold a hand like T7, T9, J7, etc. fairly often which is good for me.

private joker · #5 04-23-2007, 02:51 PM

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do you think he bets A high on the river more often than he calls?

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I dunno, maybe, maybe not. But he also has JT/J9 here sometimes and he certainly isn't calling with that.

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I kind of feel like betting here is better than check/calling, but would need to more info about the player.

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Sorry, I just haven't played with him enough to know his post-flop tendencies very well.

brettbrettr · #6 04-23-2007, 02:55 PM

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I think I'd rather bet the river and not check-raise the flop.

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Can you go into detail why you don't like the flop checkraise? I got this from reading Stox's book; there's something there about getting your opponent to fold 6-outers on the turn. If I'm representing a K or Q here, he'll fold a hand like T7, T9, J7, etc. fairly often which is good for me.

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Ya, I guess he'd fold those hands. But given the fact that this board contains so many big cards and unpaired big cards he might have have strong (v. you) draws/ace high and given how drawy the flop is I don't know that he folds those ever. I guess it comes down to how aggressive this guy is on a steal.

On the river, I think I'd rather check-fold than check-call. Betting works too. I think check-calling allows him to play way to close to perfect.

Hobbs. · #7 04-23-2007, 02:56 PM

In general I feel like, even decent regulars, that live players are much more likely to call than to bluff so I'd just take my chances and bet figuring JT/J9 are going to check through anyway and you will pick up calls enough from ace high to balance out getting called by Qx. Also, could be decent for your image to bet a 6 on the river and get called by a better hand.

brettbrettr · #8 04-23-2007, 02:56 PM

JT. That's it. Is he really calling your turn bet with J9?

brettbrettr · #9 04-23-2007, 02:58 PM

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Also, could be decent for your image to bet a 6 on the river and get called by a better hand.

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Ya, betting losers is *much* better than calling with them.

private joker · #10 04-23-2007, 03:08 PM

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I think check-calling allows him to play way too close to perfect.

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Crap, this is a good point. It probably looks like I am making a defensive check/call when the board pairs the 4 on the river, like I have a weak K or Q and am afraid of A4 or something, so he'll never bet a worse hand here on the river.