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Re: AQ line check
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Albert, folding AQ UTG seems really bad at anywhere below midstakes games. [/ QUOTE ] Why? You expect KQ/JQ to call your cb and river value bet often enough to offset the times you pay off AK? And you expect weak-tight villains to fold to your cb's instead of floating every time you both miss the flop? I play a lot live with mostly loose passive players, a couple of LAGs, and a hand full of TAGs. When I have AQo in EP, if I limp, I usually either have a 6-or-more-way pot, or else I'm raised from LP and there are 3-or-more-players to the flop if I just call the raise. Then if I raise, I often end up in a 4- or 5-way pot OOP in a pretty big pot with TPTK/TP2K at best and little chance to improve my hand. I've found it a whole lot cheaper to just let go UTG as the default play. Now, that having been said, AQs isn't much better hot-n-cold vs AQo, but I'll raise AQs UTG because I usually have at least a back-door flush to go with my TP when I hit the flop. My cbs then get called by all kinds of draws, TPWK, and some underpairs. If I miss, I usually just c/f in those multi-way pots instead of wasting a cb into 3 or 4 loose passives. And occasionally, if I run into trouble, that backdoor flush draw occasionally comes in really handy. Also, leading out with a 2-heart flush draw is also good, since when it hits on the turn, it is often somewhat disguished. I usually play 1/2 100 max buy-in and 3/2 300 max buy-in. |
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Re: AQ line check
I don't think raising AQ off UTG is that great. I frequently fold it too. You're gonna get beat by AK a lot, and you're out of position.
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Re: AQ line check
Standard limp for me. I raise it when the table gets tight.
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Re: AQ line check
If you limp or fold AQ UTG what hands are you raising? AA KK QQ AK only? If so, every setminer must love you.
I raise most PP and AQ UTG. I feel UTG raises are respected in general so I get folds and take the blinds or take it down with a cbet. |
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Re: AQ line check
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[ QUOTE ] Albert, folding AQ UTG seems really bad at anywhere below midstakes games. [/ QUOTE ] Why? You expect KQ/JQ to call your cb and river value bet often enough to offset the times you pay off AK? And you expect weak-tight villains to fold to your cb's instead of floating every time you both miss the flop? I play a lot live with mostly loose passive players, a couple of LAGs, and a hand full of TAGs. When I have AQo in EP, if I limp, I usually either have a 6-or-more-way pot, or else I'm raised from LP and there are 3-or-more-players to the flop if I just call the raise. Then if I raise, I often end up in a 4- or 5-way pot OOP in a pretty big pot with TPTK/TP2K at best and little chance to improve my hand. I've found it a whole lot cheaper to just let go UTG as the default play. Now, that having been said, AQs isn't much better hot-n-cold vs AQo, but I'll raise AQs UTG because I usually have at least a back-door flush to go with my TP when I hit the flop. My cbs then get called by all kinds of draws, TPWK, and some underpairs. If I miss, I usually just c/f in those multi-way pots instead of wasting a cb into 3 or 4 loose passives. And occasionally, if I run into trouble, that backdoor flush draw occasionally comes in really handy. Also, leading out with a 2-heart flush draw is also good, since when it hits on the turn, it is often somewhat disguished. I usually play 1/2 100 max buy-in and 3/2 300 max buy-in. [/ QUOTE ] I think you are right on with your play for the loose live games. In internet games where things get tighter I think you can make an argument for all three plays given different tables. At an aggressive table you can just fold it UTG. At a super tight table you can raise 3xBB and steal the blinds. At a table full of weak calling stations where your post flop skills are better than your opponents you can limp with it and play poker after the flop. |
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Re: AQ line check
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Albert, folding AQ UTG seems really bad at anywhere below midstakes games. [/ QUOTE ] Why? You expect KQ/JQ to call your cb and river value bet often enough to offset the times you pay off AK? And you expect weak-tight villains to fold to your cb's instead of floating every time you both miss the flop? I play a lot live with mostly loose passive players, a couple of LAGs, and a hand full of TAGs. When I have AQo in EP, if I limp, I usually either have a 6-or-more-way pot, or else I'm raised from LP and there are 3-or-more-players to the flop if I just call the raise. Then if I raise, I often end up in a 4- or 5-way pot OOP in a pretty big pot with TPTK/TP2K at best and little chance to improve my hand. I've found it a whole lot cheaper to just let go UTG as the default play. Now, that having been said, AQs isn't much better hot-n-cold vs AQo, but I'll raise AQs UTG because I usually have at least a back-door flush to go with my TP when I hit the flop. My cbs then get called by all kinds of draws, TPWK, and some underpairs. If I miss, I usually just c/f in those multi-way pots instead of wasting a cb into 3 or 4 loose passives. And occasionally, if I run into trouble, that backdoor flush draw occasionally comes in really handy. Also, leading out with a 2-heart flush draw is also good, since when it hits on the turn, it is often somewhat disguished. I usually play 1/2 100 max buy-in and 3/2 300 max buy-in. [/ QUOTE ] I think you are right on with your play for the loose live games. In internet games where things get tighter I think you can make an argument for all three plays given different tables. At an aggressive table you can just fold it UTG. At a super tight table you can raise 3xBB and steal the blinds. At a table full of weak calling stations where your post flop skills are better than your opponents you can limp with it and play poker after the flop. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with the above - Except why not raise the weak calling stations and play poker after the flop? |
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Re: AQ line check
Did you read what I wrote. I said I limp it generally or raise it when the table is tight.
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Re: AQ line check
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Albert, folding AQ UTG seems really bad at anywhere below midstakes games. [/ QUOTE ] Why? You expect KQ/JQ to call your cb and river value bet often enough to offset the times you pay off AK? And you expect weak-tight villains to fold to your cb's instead of floating every time you both miss the flop? I play a lot live with mostly loose passive players, a couple of LAGs, and a hand full of TAGs. When I have AQo in EP, if I limp, I usually either have a 6-or-more-way pot, or else I'm raised from LP and there are 3-or-more-players to the flop if I just call the raise. Then if I raise, I often end up in a 4- or 5-way pot OOP in a pretty big pot with TPTK/TP2K at best and little chance to improve my hand. I've found it a whole lot cheaper to just let go UTG as the default play. Now, that having been said, AQs isn't much better hot-n-cold vs AQo, but I'll raise AQs UTG because I usually have at least a back-door flush to go with my TP when I hit the flop. My cbs then get called by all kinds of draws, TPWK, and some underpairs. If I miss, I usually just c/f in those multi-way pots instead of wasting a cb into 3 or 4 loose passives. And occasionally, if I run into trouble, that backdoor flush draw occasionally comes in really handy. Also, leading out with a 2-heart flush draw is also good, since when it hits on the turn, it is often somewhat disguished. I usually play 1/2 100 max buy-in and 3/2 300 max buy-in. [/ QUOTE ] I think you are right on with your play for the loose live games. In internet games where things get tighter I think you can make an argument for all three plays given different tables. At an aggressive table you can just fold it UTG. At a super tight table you can raise 3xBB and steal the blinds. At a table full of weak calling stations where your post flop skills are better than your opponents you can limp with it and play poker after the flop. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with the above - Except why not raise the weak calling stations and play poker after the flop? [/ QUOTE ] Because if you do have stations at your table you would be building a big pot that you will have to play OOP. |
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