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guys, make sure you check out stack sizes here [/ QUOTE ] heh, changes my thought process somewhat but the result is the same. im firing 15-17$ and folding to a shove, but shoving myself on the turn if flatcalled. your average idiot is scared shitless of the ace if he doesnt have it i wouldnt expect to see a shove with many non-ace hands on this flop given his stack size. |
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Re: now what
I'm saying that QQ+/AK are in his range a lot less, and he will respond to flop bets/checks a lot differently than if he had a full stack.
ie, if you bet this flop, he's a lot more likely to push with 99 or some [censored] than if he was full stacked. Also, if he DOES have KK-JJ, theres A LOT LESS FE than if he was fully stacked |
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I'm saying that QQ+/AK are in his range a lot less, and he will respond to flop bets/checks a lot differently than if he had a full stack. ie, if you bet this flop, he's a lot more likely to push with 99 or some [censored] than if he was full stacked. Also, if he DOES have KK-JJ, theres A LOT LESS FE than if he was fully stacked [/ QUOTE ] we disagree here, but given your assumptions what is your flop line and plan? |
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[ QUOTE ] guys, make sure you check out stack sizes here [/ QUOTE ] are you saying villain never folds a better hand here w/ so little behind OR that we cannot fold here versus a villain with so little behind? [/ QUOTE ] Good question. I really hate these spots against short-but not that short-stacks. In hindsight it looks like if you bet then you are either getting called or raised by a better hand, or folding out a worse one. |
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either check/fold (with plan to put $$$ in on turn if checked behind) or bet/call i think....and im struggling between deciding what is better and why
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dan it sounds to me like you're saying that 99 folds never and KK folds never. so we're getting it all in here regardless. T/F?
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I'm saying that QQ+/AK are in his range a lot less, and he will respond to flop bets/checks a lot differently than if he had a full stack. ie, if you bet this flop, he's a lot more likely to push with 99 or some [censored] than if he was full stacked. Also, if he DOES have KK-JJ, theres A LOT LESS FE than if he was fully stacked [/ QUOTE ] This is dead on. That said, what is your line, Dan? Are you willing to c/f here, or are we willing to get it AI? I doubt there is a lot of in between here. |
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Damn, I am so slow at posting sometimes!
Edit: Dan basically posted the same thing I did while I was writing up my question! |
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I agree with danb. I was unsure of check folding or bet calling. what do u guys think
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I probably c/f here, TBH, and I think it is a close decision.
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