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Old 11-04-2006, 07:33 AM
NinetyEight NinetyEight is offline
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Default Can i get away from this hand

After playing it the way that i did do you think i could get away from this hand on the river. How should i have played the hand?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($5.05)
Hero ($45.50)
CO ($11.25)
Button ($23.90)
SB ($25)
BB ($12.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($5) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, CO calls $1.50, Button calls $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1.50.

Turn: ($11) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, CO calls $3, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $3, CO calls $3.

River: ($29) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $10.25</font>, Hero calls $10.25, CO calls $2.75 (All-In).

Final Pot: $52.25
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Old 11-04-2006, 07:37 AM
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Default Re: Can i get away from this hand

You need to bet alot more on the flop and preferably get it in on the turn.
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Old 11-04-2006, 07:38 AM
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Default Re: Can i get away from this hand

pot sized bet on all streets.
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Old 11-04-2006, 07:41 AM
NinetyEight NinetyEight is offline
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Default Re: Can i get away from this hand

Yea i agree that i shouldve bet the flop stronger. If i did i wouldve won the hand cuz i doubt he wouldve called with his AQ
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Old 11-04-2006, 08:08 AM
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Default Re: Can i get away from this hand

multiway+drawy flop = pot the flop
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Old 11-04-2006, 09:33 AM
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Default Re: Can i get away from this hand

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multiway+drawy flop = pot the flop

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This is good advice. The flop bet was awfull given the texture of the flop. If the flop came down K82r then this bet would be ok, but on this flop the bet op made was suicide. With this many callers and this flop, and overbet might even be a reasonable play.
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Old 11-04-2006, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: Can i get away from this hand

(1) With lots of callers in the hand, I would raise more on the flop. Your flop bet is to small and looks to weakish with so many callers in there. The board has some possible draws to a flush or straight, so I would overbet the pot here. Maybe 150 or even 200% would be good.
(2) You have to take into account how many people are in there. With 4 player in there on the turn and a reraise from the Button with 2 people still left to act, what holding other than a straight shall he have?
(3) Given the turn action, You can be quite sure here that the Button has a straight. You have the pot odds to call his reraise in the hopes, that the river pairs the board. If that doesn't happen, I would throw that hand away. There are still 2 people left and 1 of them has to have a straight almost every time.
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Old 11-04-2006, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: Can i get away from this hand

*grunch*

Pot the flop... bet pot on turn, if villain raises push all-in.. Try to get your money in asap, you're not getting away from this hand on the river in a million years. My guess is you were up against AQ (or Q9 but that's less unlikely) and got owned on the turn.

If you hit top set just make pot sized bets and hope someone calls with 2 pair or the case king with a decent kicker, never ever slowplay especially on this board.
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Old 11-04-2006, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: Can i get away from this hand

The idea of the PSB on the flop is to price out the draws that could hurt your hand on later streets. At the micro levels it should be considered a sin to slow play a set. Play it fast. If you think you're playing it fast enough, play it faster.
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Old 11-04-2006, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: Can i get away from this hand

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multiway+drawy flop = pot the flop

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This is good advice. The flop bet was awfull given the texture of the flop. If the flop came down K82r then this bet would be ok, but on this flop the bet op made was suicide. With this many callers and this flop, and overbet might even be a reasonable play.

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No. The flop bet is awful no matter what. You want to get value from your hand. You should be betting 2/3-pot with your cont bets anyways. So when you hit, you should be betting the same.

Your flop bet is horrific. You give everyone with a draw the correct odds to suck out on you.
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