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Middle Pair No Kicker
Am I being too aggressive here with only 2nd pair and an overcard on the flop?
Poker Stars Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $0.05/$0.1 10 players Converter Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP3 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero (poster) checks, CO calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, BB (poster) checks. Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5.4SB, 5 players) BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls. Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.7BB, 4 players) UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 calls all-in $0.1</font>. River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (12.7BB, 3 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 12.7BB) UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, 2 folds. Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Hero. Results: Final pot: 12.7BB |
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Re: Middle Pair No Kicker
I don't really like the turn raise. I just call dwon.
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Re: Middle Pair No Kicker
ok I may be pissed right now but doesn't this turn raise suck?
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Re: Middle Pair No Kicker
Flop bet is close, but it's actually an easy check/fold. Turn raise and river bet are spew. Now who is going to call on the river with a worse hand? This is more a less a bluff against 5 opponents.
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Re: Middle Pair No Kicker
Yeah, I think it may well suck. I probably do that too often, mistakenly trying to 'protect my hand'.
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Re: Middle Pair No Kicker
Consider the number of players and the coordination of the board. These variables determine your hand just as much as your holecards.
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Re: Middle Pair No Kicker
I see what you mean, thanks for the advice, its pretty obvious now I think about it...d'oh
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Re: Middle Pair No Kicker
Ok, this hand comes from our session review (we're not on Aussies list 'cause we were too late). My reaction to his hand was that betting the flop wasn't going to protect his hand since he was giving 5 to 1 odds which are enough for a good draw (OESD / FD) to call anyways.
Now it's true that merely checking might be weak (I know I'm too weak postflop) and giving a free card to the OESD is indeed a bigger mistake then just betting out. My primary concern would then be if this hand has enough value to bet? The turn raise got me puzzled when reviewing this hand for the first time. Especially because there was already an overcard to his jack on the flop and the 9 on the turn could have filled someones draw. In my humble opinion this turn raise was chip spew. On a side-note: As well as for Joujou, this was my first attempt at session review, and I think Joujou agrees when I say session reviews are a great way to learn more. |
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Re: Middle Pair No Kicker
Yeah, the session review's great, I recommend it. Don't know why I've never done it before.
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Re: Middle Pair No Kicker
c/f flop
c/f turn c/f river |
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