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Old 10-08-2006, 12:44 PM
Tupacia Tupacia is offline
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Play law school like poker and look for +EV. I got scholarships to 2nd tier so no debt (freerolled in, no backers). Weak competition (fish) at 2nd tier helped me graduate in top of my class (bracelet) and law review (final tables). Top rank from 2nd tier lets me reasonably compete with 1st tier graduates (AQ vs. KK) who are up to their eyeballs in debt.

Most other approaches do not pay off as well. Many are -EV.

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This is by far the dumbest thing I have ever read in my entire life. Like, it's not even close.
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Old 10-08-2006, 02:46 PM
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Play law school like poker and look for +EV. I got scholarships to 2nd tier so no debt (freerolled in, no backers). Weak competition (fish) at 2nd tier helped me graduate in top of my class (bracelet) and law review (final tables). Top rank from 2nd tier lets me reasonably compete with 1st tier graduates (AQ vs. KK) who are up to their eyeballs in debt.

Most other approaches do not pay off as well. Many are -EV.

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I really hope you're gimmick/strategy in the courtroom is to use poker metaphors throughout your opening and closing arguments.
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Old 10-08-2006, 10:54 PM
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Play law school like poker and look for +EV. I got scholarships to 2nd tier so no debt (freerolled in, no backers). Weak competition (fish) at 2nd tier helped me graduate in top of my class (bracelet) and law review (final tables). Top rank from 2nd tier lets me reasonably compete with 1st tier graduates (AQ vs. KK) who are up to their eyeballs in debt.

Most other approaches do not pay off as well. Many are -EV.

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This post+your previous post lead me to believe that you made the least educated law school choice possible.

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I think that his quote is exactly spot on.

especially this part : "Top rank from 2nd tier lets me reasonably compete with 1st tier graduates (AQ vs. KK) who are up to their eyeballs in debt"

So, he got on law review, finished at the top of his class, and is still a huge underdog to people that went for the higher ranked school.

Even his own analysis is against him.
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Old 10-08-2006, 11:20 PM
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As an obj/libertarian, check out U of Chicago. "Law & economics" is the most friendly mainstream legal philosophy.
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Old 10-09-2006, 12:10 AM
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"Law & economics" is the most friendly mainstream legal philosophy.

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Can you expand on what you mean here?
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Old 10-09-2006, 01:30 PM
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"Law & economics" is the most friendly mainstream legal philosophy.

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Can you expand on what you mean here?

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It's Chicago (university of, not the city).

Milton Friedman et al did their stuff there.

It's considered probably the most active hotbed of free market theory/libertarianism etc probbaly of any top 20 school. Google/wikipedia are your friend.
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Old 10-09-2006, 02:33 PM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: Help me choose a law school...

Apply to the following:
Yale
Stanford
Harvard
Columbia
NYU
U of Chicago
UPenn
UC Berkeley
UMich (Ann Arbor)
UVA
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Georgetown
UCLA
U Texas (Austin)
USC
Vandy
GW
Wash U
BU
BC


Go to the highest ranked school on that list unless you want to make an exception for where you want to practice law (Northwestern might be more valuable to you than UC Berkeley if you want to practice in Illinois)

The people who made a point about law firm snobbery are correct. Do not go where you get money, it is a long run -EV play.

Apply to A LOT of schools. I know people who have been accepted to Harvard but were rejected from the other 9 top 10 schools. Applications are a contact game with high variance... apply everywhere now and make your decission later.

Good luck
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:53 PM
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It's Chicago (university of, not the city).

Milton Friedman et al did their stuff there.

It's considered probably the most active hotbed of free market theory/libertarianism etc probbaly of any top 20 school.

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Thanks!
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Old 10-09-2006, 08:00 PM
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Apply to the following:
Yale
Stanford
Harvard
Columbia
NYU
U of Chicago
UPenn
UC Berkeley
UMich (Ann Arbor)
UVA
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Georgetown
UCLA
U Texas (Austin)
USC
Vandy
GW
Wash U
BU
BC


Go to the highest ranked school on that list unless you want to make an exception for where you want to practice law (Northwestern might be more valuable to you than UC Berkeley if you want to practice in Illinois)

The people who made a point about law firm snobbery are correct. Do not go where you get money, it is a long run -EV play.

Apply to A LOT of schools. I know people who have been accepted to Harvard but were rejected from the other 9 top 10 schools. Applications are a contact game with high variance... apply everywhere now and make your decission later.

Good luck

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This was the plan, and this was more or less the list of schools I had lined up, although I figured I'd apply to a couple lower schools as well, just to see.
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Old 10-10-2006, 01:34 AM
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There is some maddeningly terrible advice in this thread.

If you want to go into academia, going to the best school possible should be your number one consideration for the simple reason that you will 100% want to clerk if you want to be a professor. Getting a federal clerkship (and ideally a Circuit clerkship) is almost entirely premised upon two things: 1) Grades/Rank in the context of the difficulty of your school; and 2) Professorial connections/recommendations, which are naturally going to be more valuable as the quality of the faculty increases.

I'm at YLS now. PM if you have more questions about this.
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