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Old 08-07-2006, 02:50 AM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Hero is a luckbox...

I don't want to limp it because the players behind me are too tight and I'm not sure I'll get the action I want. But I don't want to fold such a nice hand against tight players, so I'll raise it! Too bad I ran into someone else who likes his hand.

So if we don't argue about preflop play, how's the flop check/3-bet?

And now that I've luckboxed the turn, how do I play it?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (11 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero...
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Old 08-07-2006, 02:52 AM
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Default Re: Hero is a luckbox...

bet/3-bet.
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Old 08-07-2006, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: Hero is a luckbox...

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Old 08-07-2006, 02:59 AM
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Default Re: Hero is a luckbox...

preflop I think is fine I think limping is no good at tighter tables as half the time no one else comes along.

flop the check/3 bet is good you have a whole lot of outs here.

the turn I probably just bet out and go from there.
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Old 08-07-2006, 03:03 AM
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Default Re: Hero is a luckbox...

bet not close. MP1 can easily have AK [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and just let it go through. Also the 4 straight on board will make him check plenty of other hands that he might have liked on the flop.
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Old 08-07-2006, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: Hero is a luckbox...

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Old 08-07-2006, 03:07 AM
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this is funny because your hand is perfectly disguised now
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Old 08-07-2006, 03:58 AM
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Don't stop accelerating until you crash.
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Old 08-07-2006, 05:10 AM
John Dough John Dough is offline
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Default Re: Hero is a luckbox...

Fold preflop? JTs is a terrible hand to play OOP, especially against tight agressive players.

Having said that, the flop play is perfect. You have overcards and two strong draws.

On the turn you hit the best possible draw, but you are still vulnerable. Given the action you could easily be against a set or two-pair, which could improve to a full house on the river. AK [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is also a small possibility, so your flush redraw won't always be good if another diamond comes. Therefore, you'll need to protect your hand and charge the maximum from anyone drawing here. Bet/3-bet.
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Old 08-07-2006, 06:46 AM
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Default Re: Hero is a luckbox...

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Lots of luck getting raised; but yeah you have to bet it.
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