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Re: A river raise/fold?
river raise is close IMO, but everyone pays off with a boat.
kd, are you folding to a raise? I'm not sure I think our hand is all that great that we're going to get a ton of value when we get called twice on turn + river. I think i'd rather just have one bet go in and show it down. we dont need any protection. |
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Re: A river raise/fold?
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river raise is close IMO, but everyone pays off with a boat. kd, are you folding to a raise? I'm not sure I think our hand is all that great that we're going to get a ton of value when we get called twice on turn + river. I think i'd rather just have one bet go in and show it down. we dont need any protection. [/ QUOTE ] I think you may get a 9 to fold if you bet turn and river, which is why I agree with this, some smaller pairs are folding a lot to the turn bet, but may put at least one bet in on the river. I think the river raise isn't terrible, calling wouldn't be bad, but folding here is a big mistake. True |
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Re: A river raise/fold?
jba and true,
you might be right. Really depends. I just think most hands calling the flop are going to showdown, and there are more non A hands than A hands, and some of the A hands aren't extracting max value anyway. Not checking mediocre, showdownable hands on the turn might be a leak of mine, though. So not betting definitely has merit. |
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Re: A river raise/fold?
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jba and true, you might be right. Really depends. I just think most hands calling the flop are going to showdown, and there are more non A hands than A hands, and some of the A hands aren't extracting max value anyway. Not checking mediocre, showdownable hands on the turn might be a leak of mine, though. So not betting definitely has merit. [/ QUOTE ] Against an LP this can go either way, against a LAG a check is definitely best. I usually just bet the turn here, but I like the check. I think it is good. I usually have even a little info even subconscious which helps me decide whether to bet or check. He limp/called preflop and most of these players are typically bad, so I like to bet turn and bet river here. If he c/r turn I am definitely folding. A player who limps UTG, calls a raise then c/c a pfr on AA-x flop is rarely c/ring the turn with a hand like 22. True |
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Re: A river raise/fold?
Your river play doesn't make sense to me, the way the rest of the hanf played out.
As played Im calling the river. |
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Re: A river raise/fold?
Come on you have to call this.
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Re: A river raise/fold?
ohhhh tilt is a wonderful thing..lol.
Anyways, there been some good input in this thread. Very informative. Thanks. -Caddy |
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Re: A river raise/fold?
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turn check was to induce a river bet from any hand he may hold. [/ QUOTE ] Turn: It's also good to prevent getting c/r'd and putting you to a hard decision. i.e. does he have an Ace, a better or worse King, or a Donkey played 9. River: Since he may have been going for a c/r on the turn with an Ace or King, I'd just call the river bet. |
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Re: A river raise/fold?
I like the turn check + river raise. Bad fold.
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