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Old 04-26-2006, 08:50 PM
MsGluck MsGluck is offline
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Default Re: The Worst Table Etiquette EVER!

I adore Jennicide!! When she was in LA she came out to a club with me and we had a great time. Evelyn Ng and Liz Lieu are also beautiful friends of mine.
And I never EVER heard of them slow rolling another player [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:55 PM
Slubrad Slubrad is offline
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I like tater-tots!!!
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Old 04-26-2006, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: Vanessa Rousso - hot or not?

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The only pictures I have seen include a hat and big sunglasses, so no vote. What lies behind could easily be a dealbreaker.

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Which is why I don't get why we are having this thread. She doesn't seem to be trying to be the next Poker Sex Symbol, just you know.. a poker player. But if someone looks remotely female we are required by law to have one of these threads I guess.

Or maybe there's something I've missed.
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Old 04-26-2006, 09:09 PM
thedarknight thedarknight is offline
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Nice of you to join us Vanessa, now you can tell your side of the story... Is getting bad attention really a GOOD thing?

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haha damn jean. catfight!!! she pretty much says you're full of crap. who to believe?!!
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Old 04-26-2006, 09:11 PM
tom10167 tom10167 is offline
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Better yet, who really cares?
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Old 04-26-2006, 09:39 PM
VanessaRousso VanessaRousso is offline
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First, where did you find this? I can't find it anywhere on the Internet and am not entirely sure Liz wrote it. If she did:

She described the way the hand went down entirely correctly until the end...I had AQ suited, I bet and re-raised the flop with what i felt was the best hand at that point, and Liz called my re-raise. When she just called and didn't push pre-flop I thought she either had QK, QJ, JJ, or 10 10 (aces and kings were not an option since she undoubtedly would have re-raised my pre flop raise when she realized action would be four ways). When she checked the turn (J), I was nervous that she boated with JJ or QJ (as she apparently did). So, I checked. The river gave me a queen. When she checked to me I had a few seconds to try and figure out how to maximize value in the hand. I figured going all in would convince her I was weak as someone with quads would probably not grossly over-bet the pot. I went all in and she went into the think tank for at least a full 3-4 minutes. During that time I got up, walked around, took off my sunglasses, tried to look as confident as possible (since that’s what bluffers would undoubtedly do in that scenario). Finally, I called the clock for two reasons. One, it had been at least 3 full minutes and I was under the assumption that it is within a player's rights to call the clock on an opponent when necessary (in fact, this happened to me numerous times during the tournament so I know I am not the only player who chooses to exercise this right...Victor Ramdin did it several times on Day 6). The second reason was simple poker psychology. It is well known that people call the clock on opponents when they are nervous and they want the opponent to fold. I knew that Liz did not know who I was, and as far as she knew I was a donkey whose boyfriend bought her in....I thought I could get away with convincing her I was weak, and enticing a call, by calling the clock. Liz chose to call at the end of the minute given to her. Now, this is the important part. She put a stack of chips in the center. But she did not say "I Call." I asked, “Did you call?” She did not answer, and in my haste to interpret her actions as a call I flipped over my cards and said "I have quads." I know these are the words I chose as I have never ever uttered them before (I have never had quads in a live event before) and I can definitely recall saying them. I also am positive those are the words I chose because I immediately wanted to take them back as I was nervous that she had not actually called yet…that I had misunderstood her actions…and that I had preemptively exposed my hand. As the pot was given to me she said, “I had Jacks.” To this, I replied, “I’m sorry then, what a cold deck, I got really lucky.” I never ever said “nice hand.” And I most certainly did not slow roll. If something I said was misheard as “nice hand,” then that is the only plausible explanation I can think of. I am not saying Liz is lying….I hope she isn’t the one who wrote that…but if she is, then I assume she misheard me. I only wish that if she did have that impression of me she would have spoken to me personally so that I could explain that that was not what I said and if that is what she heard then I am very sorry but she must have misheard me. In the confusion and stress of the situation I am not sure either one of us were thinking all that clearly. Looking back, Liz was a little stand-offish to me after that hand. I assumed it was because she was upset at having lost a pot, or even that maybe when I took the pot down I acted too excited (I thought maybe she thought I was not sensitive to her losing a big pot…which also would not have been my intentions…but given how huge the pot was I wasn’t thinking very clearly and I got caught up in the moment). Now I understand that she thought I slow-rolled her…I only hope she reads this and understands that I really did not, at least knowingly, do so. I am sorry if I did not handle any part of my reactions with Liz appropriately. As I have stated before, I admire her and her playing ability tremendously. I hope that this clears up any confusion.
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Old 04-26-2006, 09:48 PM
thedarknight thedarknight is offline
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liz's site

she has a site and mentions it in her blog. you played the hand well. Calling the clock isn't bad..you used it as an effective tactic to induce her to call. There's nothing wrong there. Thanks for sharing the hand...definitely different from Liz's take.
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Old 04-26-2006, 09:53 PM
VanessaRousso VanessaRousso is offline
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oh okay I see her blog now...hopefully when I see her in person I can explain that I did not, at least knowingly, slow roll her.
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Old 04-26-2006, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: Classic butterface

I didn't say she couldn't play. I'm sure she is a great player. The question was whether or not I thought she was hot and the answer is she is a butterface.
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Old 04-26-2006, 10:40 PM
Liferules Liferules is offline
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Default Re: Classic butterface

Grab a life and some class and be nice - she is totally hot/cute (and who CARES anyway - soooo shallow). Seriously if you dont have something nice to say why even say it - are you that bitter? Your nasty comments are ugly.
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