I feel like an idiot during hands like this (lc) - Page 2

g-p · #11 04-17-2006, 01:05 PM

i sometimes push the river, depending on what hands i had seen showndown

AllIn3High · #12 04-17-2006, 01:15 PM

Heh, this thread is pretty silly. Anyway, his K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] was no good. SHIP IT!

I just get soooo annoyed by this crap, and more or less wanted to hear if any was gonna try to push him off a weak pair on the turn.

I'm making too many retarded bluffs.

thedustbustr · #13 04-17-2006, 01:19 PM

hi,
why did you rise so much on the flop? a normal cbet has just as much FE but makes the pot smaller.

there are several morons at the site I play who like to minbet into the PFR to "steal the pot," they fold to the raise. you played this fine.

DJ Sensei · #14 04-17-2006, 01:26 PM

FWIW, I think you played it fine. I hate minbetters and always raise them, but it sucks when they have a better hand than you and you're just throwing money at them.

I think my version of this hand was worse: (Villain was crazy lag (same one from other hand), and could have anything here, the last thing i wanted was to raise him when i was behind and get my stack in as a loser. so i pussed out and called him the whole way.)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($143.38)
BB ($645.32)
UTG ($872.72)
MP ($188)
CO ($375.20)
Hero ($442)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
UTG raises to $8, 2 folds, Hero raises to $27, 2 folds, UTG calls $19.

Flop: ($60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $4, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($68) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $4, Hero calls $4.

River: ($76) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $4, Hero calls $4.

Final Pot: $84

Results:
UTG has Ks Jh (high card, king).
Hero has Ac Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $84.

The lesson is, when they do this they always have KJo.

AllIn3High · #15 04-17-2006, 01:28 PM

Wow dude, you REALLY need to raise that flop (I'd also raise slighty more preflop). I stack off to crazy lags on this flop 100% of the time if they have me beat.

DJ Sensei · #16 04-17-2006, 01:30 PM

I know. The point is, I hate minbetters too.

tom441lbk · #17 04-17-2006, 01:37 PM

yo op, i've seen them do this [censored] with draws to, and if you have been raising minbets, i'll see the occasional strong made hand "weak lead" metagame for donkeys, lesson is, if i know your 2p2 i am minbetting into you

crosse91 · #18 04-17-2006, 01:41 PM

This hand is HORRIBLE on every street.
VOMIT VOMIT VOMIT VOMIT VOMT

PROJECTILE VOMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Berge20 · #19 04-17-2006, 02:17 PM

I hate these hands so much...I feel compelled to raise the flop b/c I still may be ahead even after I whiff.

Then they do another donkbet and I'm like, wtf...surely he is still drawing and I fire again. Then they donkbet a blank river and i just call and they show me some draw or mid-pair crappy kicker.

blarg! Just make a note of if they lead and fold to a raise on the flop