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05-08-2007, 09:54 AM
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Facing huge river check raise with top pair........
Playing $7.50/15 deep stack on FTP. My image is a passive nit, been been check calling and check folding alot. I've shown down 3 hands thus far and each time I've had the goods. Villain in hand is Stuart Patterson, played with him before and he doesn't seem that great, kinda irratic. What is my river line here? And what do you think of my turn line?
Full Tilt Poker Game #2370580005: Table Cope (deep 6) - $7.50/$15 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:15:53 ET - 2007/05/07 Seat 1: Champalafagus ($3,216) Seat 3: thedegeneral ($6,958) Seat 4: Stuart Paterson ($2,496) Seat 5: mastrblastr ($4,258) Seat 6: David Singer ($1,723.35) thedegeneral posts the small blind of $7.50 Stuart Paterson posts the big blind of $15 The button is in seat #1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Champalafagus [Ts Ah] mastrblastr folds David Singer folds Champalafagus raises to $52.50 thedegeneral folds Stuart Paterson calls $37.50 *** FLOP *** [8d 6h Ks] Stuart Paterson checks Champalafagus bets $89 Stuart Paterson calls $89 *** TURN *** [8d 6h Ks] [Ad] Stuart Paterson checks Champalafagus checks mastrblastr: k *** RIVER *** [8d 6h Ks Ad] [7c] Stuart Paterson checks Champalafagus bets $159.95 Stuart Paterson raises to $959.95 Champalafagus???????????????? 
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#2
05-08-2007, 10:22 AM
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Re: Facing huge river check raise with top pair........
Villain sees you as a tight passive player and puts you probably on AK-AT.
Villain floats the flop thinking he will buy the pot on turn/river. Turn is A -> bad card for villain. Pot is about 280$ so he knows he probably can't push you off the hand by leading. You check behind (for pot control?) and Villain knows you don't have AK. On river pot is still only about 280$ and he knows he still can't push you off the hand by leading. You make a valuebet here correctly and villain pulls the old check-raise-bluff move knowing you are capable of laying the hand down. Check-raising was his only possible move to win the pot with air. My guess is you folded and he showed you QJ or something like that.
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#3
05-08-2007, 11:28 AM
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Re: Facing huge river check raise with top pair........
Fold... quick
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05-08-2007, 12:28 PM
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Re: Facing huge river check raise with top pair........
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2pair [/ QUOTE ] or a set
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#7
05-08-2007, 12:28 PM
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Re: Facing huge river check raise with top pair........
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Why should I fold quick. What is he trying to rep that beats me? [/ QUOTE ] With the action up to the river, he will expect you to bet just about anything with any kind of showdown value (as well as some bluffs). This makes checkraising his good hands much better than leading with them. He might be bluffing, but he's never checkraising worse for value.
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#9
05-08-2007, 01:13 PM
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Re: Facing huge river check raise with top pair........
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Why should I fold quick. What is he trying to rep that beats me? [/ QUOTE ] 2 straights got there.. set, 2 pair.. are less likely but still possible... and your not exactly getting good odds to call.
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#10
05-08-2007, 02:09 PM
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Re: Facing huge river check raise with top pair........
theres no way villian could have played a set this bad... it has to be either the straight or nothing... and he knows what u have
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