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Old 04-28-2006, 01:50 PM
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Default For SSNLers that don\'t read MSNL

AJFenix, recently upgraded to mod status [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img], posted this gem last night.

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Old 04-28-2006, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: For SSNLers that don\'t read MSNL

reading so far and it is gold - i'm loving it.
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Old 04-28-2006, 02:16 PM
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Read it this morning - Baluga linked it in dbitels preflop reraise thread. Great post, basically where I'm trying to go with my game, but having a hard time getting there. You could add coming over the top on the flop to that list too.
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Old 04-28-2006, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: For SSNLers that don\'t read MSNL

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Read it this morning - Baluga linked it in dbitels preflop reraise thread.

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Hah... As I began to read it I instantly remembered dbitels post and thought that he should read it...
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Old 04-28-2006, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: For SSNLers that don\'t read MSNL

Just to reiterate:

Don't go crazy with this stuff at SSNL. You're going to get yourselves into a lot of trouble against the typical SSNL player. Keep it in mind for when you move up but please don't start reraising with 56s in your 25NL game.
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Old 04-28-2006, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: For SSNLers that don\'t read MSNL

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Just to reiterate:

Don't go crazy with this stuff at SSNL. You're going to get yourselves into a lot of trouble against the typical SSNL player. Keep it in mind for when you move up but please don't start reraising with 56s in your 25NL game.

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Yes, it's important to take this stuff into context. As AJfenix points out:

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Just as the solid grinder is preying on the fish to pay off his big hand, the 30/20 in the 10/20 Party game is preying on the solid grinder's leaks.

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Our primary goal in SSNL is to become a solid grinder. Later we add these things to out arsenal, but not before we build a very solid foundation.
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Old 04-29-2006, 06:58 AM
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Default Re: For SSNLers that don\'t read MSNL

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Just to reiterate:

Don't go crazy with this stuff at SSNL. You're going to get yourselves into a lot of trouble against the typical SSNL player. Keep it in mind for when you move up but please don't start reraising with 56s in your 25NL game.

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I think it was a good post, but it might not be very useful for SSNL. However it is useful to know that as we move up and our competition gets better we need to change certain aspects of our game.

Getting overaggresive with reraising preflop does not seem like the highest +EV option in SSNL, especially when the opponent fails to notice just how thight your reraising standards are.

Again i might be underestimating my opponents at 100NL, but getting to fancy is a leak at the lower levels IMO.
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Old 04-28-2006, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: For SSNLers that don\'t read MSNL

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Read it this morning - Baluga linked it in dbitels preflop reraise thread. Great post, basically where I'm trying to go with my game, but having a hard time getting there. You could add coming over the top on the flop to that list too.

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ooops, didn't know it had all ready been linked. Either way its a nice addition to a lot of the preflop discussion recently in SSNL.
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Old 04-28-2006, 02:43 PM
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Read it this morning - Baluga linked it in dbitels preflop reraise thread. Great post, basically where I'm trying to go with my game, but having a hard time getting there. You could add coming over the top on the flop to that list too.

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ooops, didn't know it had all ready been linked. Either way its a nice addition to a lot of the preflop discussion recently in SSNL.

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No need for the oops. Should be required reading. Of course now I'll have to put up with a bunch of jackasses reraising preflop and firing the second barrel at me at the Party 25 & 50NL games.
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Old 04-28-2006, 02:13 PM
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good look, but please every keep this in mind so you don't bury yourselves (at other 2+2'ers detriment)

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It's also good to think about why so many MSNL players do not reraise lightly. One reason is that we're used to playing against SSNL players who are too passive for their own good, who are not raising lightly. It doesn't make sense to open up your reraising range against someone who is only raising JJ+ and AK, and who will not fold to a reraise. When someone raises with A8, 55, and T9, then you can profitably reraise with many more hands

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