$60 77 - middle pairs are the hardest hands to play in NL holdem

[suzzer99]

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1435)
UTG+1 (t1050)
CO (t4545)
Button (t1010)
Hero (t1300)
BB (t4160)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to t200</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero?


Villain has not done anything inordinately stupid. Is he digging a hole for me and throwing branches over it?

[ryanghall]

I usually fold here.

Ryan

[pineapple888]

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I usually fold here.

Ryan

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With 13xBB I see no reason to get involved. Fold.

[luthar]

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I usually fold here.

Ryan

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Does the buy-in have something to do with a fold? or is it the min-raise? or something else...

[ryanghall]

How about the fact that 77 ain't all that great, you have lots of chips left, you're out of position postflop AND it's difficult to play 77 postflop vs a PFR?

Ryan

PS What would the buyin have to do with it in this instance?

[Eagles]

I push this every time

[Indiana]

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I push this every time

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[luthar]

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How about the fact that 77 ain't all that great, you have lots of chips left, you're out of position postflop AND it's difficult to play 77 postflop vs a PFR?

Ryan

PS What would the buyin have to do with it in this instance?

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I was thinking mostly like Indiana about a push. Problem is, we are up against a big stack and if he calls it's a coinflip.

As for the buyin level, I play low SnGs... was just asking if it could be a hint or something they don't do in low SnGs...

[ryanghall]

If he calls, there's a very good chance it's not a coinflip.

Ryan

[suzzer99]

I find it's generally easier to just look at a minraise as a raise, but make a note that villain is a donk. Unless the blinds are huge--like HU equal stacks BB600--then it's acceptable.

So for you folders, between calling and pushing, which comes second? And let's say just for the sake of argument, you donked it up and called and saw this:

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to t200</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t150, BB calls t100

Flop: (t600) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero?