very unusual QJo hand

[baronzeus]

online 30/60, 9 handed.

I'm dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the button. UTG limps (unknown, seems bad), MP1 limps (loose passive), MP2 limps (very awful and passive, plays like 70% of his hands full ring, I limp behind, SB (TAG) raises, BB calls, everyone calls. 6 to the flop for 12SB.

Flop 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB checks (meaning he has overcards), BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 (loose passive guy) bets, MP2 (awful guy) calls, I decide to go ahead and raise with my backdoor/overcard draws. I need to clean up my Q and J outs from the EP players as well as K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] if they're out there, and I figure I can get my free card if I need one.

Anyways, it's folded back to MP1 who calls, and MP2 calls (obviously).


Turn K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, I check.

River J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
MP1 bets, MP2 folds, I call because the pot is huge and MP1 is a retard.


How do you like it?

[rafiki]

Do I have a leak in my game if I fold that preflop ?

[cpk]

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Do I have a leak in my game if I fold that preflop ?

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I've noticed a trend towards irrational phobia of offsuit Broadway while in position against horrible players.

[RED_RAIN]

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Do I have a leak in my game if I fold that preflop ?

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I think this is pretty far yes. Your VPIP is like 16?

[rafiki]

no it's more then that because I'm pretty aggressive in stealing blinds and protecting. I dunno, I just find that with 3 limpers ahead of me, I'm losing when I make my Q or J (KQ, AJ, KJ, etc...).

[goofball]

not limping there is a substantial leak in my opinion.

[rafiki]

"not limping there is a substantial leak in my opinion"

Feel free to elaborate on why

[BobbyArmani]

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Do I have a leak in my game if I fold that preflop ?

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I wouldn't call it a leak.

QJo is a limp and Q10o and J10o are folds for me. All three are very borderline hands and probably don't make too much difference. But I definitely think you should play QJo anyway.

[RED_RAIN]

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J10o are folds for me

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gross, I call so many more hands here such as KTo, QTo, etc, just play postflop, yippie

[bicyclekick]

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Do I have a leak in my game if I fold that preflop ?

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I'd sure say so.