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Old 04-04-2006, 07:40 PM
DCJ311 DCJ311 is offline
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Default Important Lesson on Why You Should Never Truly Go Allin

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PokerStars Game #4521874997: Tournament #22516283, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/04/04 - 19:24:12 (ET)
Table '22516283 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Premier (6795 in chips)
Seat 4: Kharouf3 (60 in chips)
Seat 7: Acesupper (2715 in chips)
Seat 8: DCJ311 (1290 in chips)
Seat 9: muchbetter (2640 in chips)

Premier: posts the ante 25
Kharouf3: posts the ante 25
Acesupper: posts the ante 25
DCJ311: posts the ante 25
muchbetter: posts the ante 25
Kharouf3: posts small blind 35 and is all-in
Acesupper: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DCJ311 [6c Ac]
DCJ311: raises 864 to 1264
muchbetter: calls 1264
Premier: raises 864 to 2128
Acesupper: raises 562 to 2690 and is all-in
DCJ311: folds
muchbetter: folds
Premier: calls 562
Acesupper said, "gg gents"
*** FLOP *** [3s 3h Qd]
Acesupper said, "obv"
muchbetter said, "lol"
*** TURN *** [3s 3h Qd] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [3s 3h Qd 6d] [4d]
DCJ311 said, "hehe weird"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Acesupper: shows [As Ad] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
Premier: shows [Qs Qc] (a full house, Queens full of Threes)
Premier collected 7768 from side pot
Kharouf3: shows [9c Tc] (a pair of Threes)
Premier collected 300 from main pot
DCJ311 said, "thats why you raise to -1 instead of allin thx"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8068 Main pot 300. Side pot 7768. | Rake 0
Board [3s 3h Qd 6d 4d]
Seat 2: Premier (button) showed [Qs Qc] and won (8068) with a full house, Queens full of Threes
Seat 4: Kharouf3 (small blind) showed [9c Tc] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 7: Acesupper (big blind) showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 8: DCJ311 folded before Flop
Seat 9: muchbetter folded before Flop

My preflop raise left me with one chip remaining. I do this sometimes for fun but sometimes it pays off near the bubble. I guess logically I should have left myself with a little more chips if I had any inclination of a fold, but in this hand it worked out.

Thoughts on my play?
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Old 04-04-2006, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: Important Lesson on Why You Should Never Truly Go Allin

tl;dr.

but headline is worst. advice. ever.
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Old 04-04-2006, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: Important Lesson on Why You Should Never Truly Go Allin


My ROI has gone up 3% reading this thread.
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Old 04-04-2006, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: Important Lesson on Why You Should Never Truly Go Allin

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My ROI has gone up 3% reading this thread.

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lol
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Old 04-05-2006, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: Important Lesson on Why You Should Never Truly Go Allin

BBV
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: Important Lesson on Why You Should Never Truly Go Allin

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My ROI has gone up 3% reading this thread.

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Not sure if you're joking.

OP, I agree that you should've left yourself with more. But this concept rocks until your opponents catch on. At the pathetic stakes that I play, this is gonna be huge.

TY.
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Old 04-05-2006, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: Important Lesson on Why You Should Never Truly Go Allin

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My ROI has gone up 3% reading this thread.

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Not sure if you're joking.

OP, I agree that you should've left yourself with more. But this concept rocks until your opponents catch on. At the pathetic stakes that I play, this is gonna be huge.

TY.

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not sure if you're joking
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Old 04-05-2006, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: Important Lesson on Why You Should Never Truly Go Allin

This is absurd - when is your opponent ever going to allow you to remain on 1 chip?

If they have less chips, it doesn't matter. if they have more chips, they'll make you bet it.

Besides - the pot odds of your last chip are literally thousands to one - if you're folding, you're losing massive amounts of EV, except in weird situations where the payout structure is flat (eg, satellites with multiple entries for a higher tournament) and large numbers of players have already gone all-in.
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Old 04-05-2006, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: Important Lesson on Why You Should Never Truly Go Allin

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My ROI has gone up 3% reading this thread.

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Not sure if you're joking.

OP, I agree that you should've left yourself with more. But this concept rocks until your opponents catch on. At the pathetic stakes that I play, this is gonna be huge.

TY.

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not sure if you're joking

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I thought I wasn't, but I was definitely just being very stupid.
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: Important Lesson on Why You Should Never Truly Go Allin

I can't stop laughing.
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