check behind or bet for value?

[BalugaWhale]

The turn, that is.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($34.61)
BB ($20.63)
Hero ($25)
MP1 ($20.75)
MP2 ($26.49)
CO ($8.40)
Button ($10.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($2.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, SB calls $4.

Turn: ($14.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, SB calls $8.

River: ($30.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $30.25

[4_2_it]

That board is too draw heavy to check. I like the way you played the turn and river.

[waxie]

I think the turn is fine, but does anyone think OP is missing a value bet on the river? Given the PF action, it seems very unlikely that you are up against a better king. His check on the turn also seems to indicate weakness. I value bet river, between $15-$25.

[BalugaWhale]

i.e. a push?

[thirteen]

nh.

I'd bet the river, looks like a missed draw.

[4_2_it]

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nh.

I'd bet the river, looks like a missed draw.

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Why bet then? A missed draw isn't paying off. what worse hand calls here? If you have villain on a range that will call a push with a worse hand then I will change my answer.

[thirteen]

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nh.

I'd bet the river, looks like a missed draw.

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Why bet then? A missed draw isn't paying off. what worse hand calls here? If you have villain on a range that will call a push with a worse hand then I will change my answer.

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This is a good point. I probably toss out to many 'value' bets on the river that will only get called by better hands.

[MaddHatter]

I think villan calls enough times with KJ/K9 or A8 to make a value bet profitable - I bet $10 on the river and re-evaluate to a c/r and fold to a c/push

[Dan Bitel]

baluga,

bet more on turn.

Plus this isn't a bad spot for a river value bet.

[tehox]

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nh.

I'd bet the river, looks like a missed draw.

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Why bet then? A missed draw isn't paying off. what worse hand calls here? If you have villain on a range that will call a push with a worse hand then I will change my answer.

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villian likely has either QJ/J9 or a worse king, maybe even something like A10. The way the hand played I think the river is a pretty easy value bet.