Turn the nuts; River is a nightmare

schick · #1 03-29-2006, 04:41 AM

I was left pretty clueless as the right play on this river. Villian was 27/6 over 125 hands. He had been making a lot of aggressive stabs at pots post flop, but had never been doing anything stupid, and had not shown down any weak hands. The other villian in the hand is 38/6 and quite horrible and willing to call with many mediocre holdings.

I really think I should have raised more on the turn. I just didnt think anyone would have had that good of a draw. Guess I was wrong.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 Villian ($164)
MP1 ($742.75)
Hero ($301.05)
MP3 ($353.35)
CO ($58)
Button ($187.85)
SB ($200)
BB ($195)
UTG ($233.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 Villian raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero calls $6, 3 folds, SB calls $5, 1 fold.

Flop: ($20) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Villian checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($20) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $12, Villian calls $12, Hero raises to $45, SB calls $33, Villian calls $33.

River: ($155) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Villian bets $113 (All-In), Hero ?

amoeba · #2 03-29-2006, 04:45 AM

very easy fold.

Bukem_ · #3 03-29-2006, 04:52 AM

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very easy fold.

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Given his tight raising range you are putting him on exactly aks, aqs?

amoeba · #4 03-29-2006, 05:05 AM

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very easy fold.

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Given his tight raising range you are putting him on exactly aks, aqs?

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makes no sense why villain would not push turn if he had worse made hand.

the nut flush also corresponds with his flop and turn play.

schick · #5 03-29-2006, 02:30 PM

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very easy fold.

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Given his tight raising range you are putting him on exactly aks, aqs?

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makes no sense why villain would not push turn if he had worse made hand.

the nut flush also corresponds with his flop and turn play.

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Thanks I figured this was the case. Seemed like an easy fold ; so that's what I did. I really couldn't put villian on any made hand that he would play like this on the flop and turn that I could reasonably beat. And it didn't seem like he would fire out with air into 2 opponents (or ever) based on pot and stack size.

aba20 · #6 03-29-2006, 04:26 PM

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very easy fold.

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wtfsvi · #7 03-29-2006, 03:38 PM

I don't think I can lay this down.

luckychewy · #8 03-29-2006, 04:18 PM

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lol. What can you beat...why would he bluff into 2 players. Even better question...what did he call the turn with? A8o? The more I think about it, the less hands I can think of that you can beat...he wouldn't do this with a bare 4 would he?

wtfsvi · #9 03-29-2006, 05:21 PM

he's not bluffing, but he is value betting his overpair or 4 a fair portion of the time

yvesaint · #10 03-29-2006, 05:22 PM

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he's not bluffing, but he is value betting his overpair a fair portion of the time

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i think an overpair checks this flop almost never