Are we all really gonna die ?

[Cyrus]

Sklansky, George W Bush, Rove, Kerry, the White House cleaning lady, every soldier fighting in Iraq, every insurgent fighting in Iraq, the Russians, the Chinese, the good poker players, the bad poker players, the main players, the other players, the extras, the help, everybody is gonna die. In a hundred years there will be no one reading this still alive. Not even the memory he even existed maybe.

Isn't there something that can be done? This is too horrible.

[IronDragon1]

[spanshcastlemagc]

horrible maybe, unavoidable - definately

carpe diem

[amirite]

It happens.

[Prodigy54321]

I hear Christ is coming back before that happens [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[MidGe]

Yes, we will all die. We will die in different circumstances though. Some will die in their sleep, that is they simply will not wake up. Some will die in terrifying , horrible and painful circumstances. Some will die with a sense of relief, perhaps in dignity thru euthanasia, having had enough of life. Some will be desperate to delay death by another instant. But at the end we will all be dead, then forgotten, and our lives will soon become totally inconsequential to humanity or even the universe.

"ave, munde, morituri te salutant"

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[Bigdaddydvo]

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Yes, we will all die. We will die in different circumstances though. Some will die in their sleep, that is they simply will not wake up. Some will die in terrifying , horrible and painful circumstances. Some will die with a sense of relief, perhaps in dignity thru euthanasia, having had enough of life. Some will be desperate to delay death by another instant. But at the end we will all be dead, then forgotten, and our lives will soon become totally inconsequential to humanity or even the universe.

"ave, munde, morituri te salutant"

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Sorry Mid, I can't let your subtle plug for euthanasia slip in there without response. I argue there is zero dignity in the act. My reasoning stems from the below, which is what the Catholic Church teaches:

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2276 Those whose lives are diminished or weakened deserve special respect. Sick or handicapped persons should be helped to lead lives as normal as possible.

2277 Whatever its motives and means, direct euthanasia consists in putting an end to the lives of handicapped, sick or dying persons. It is morally unacceptable.

Thus an act or omission which, of itself or by intention, causes death in order to eliminate suffering constitutes a murder gravely contrary to the dignity of the human person and to the respect due to the living God, his Creator. The error of judgement into which one can fall in good faith does not change the nature of this murderous act, which must always be forbidden and excluded.

2278 Discontinuing medical procedures that are burdensome, dangerous, extraordinary, or disproportionate to the expected outcome can be legitimate; it is the refusal of 'over-zealous' treatment. Here one does not will to cause death; one's inability to impede it is merely accepted. The decisions should be made by the patient if he is competent and able or, if not, by those legally entitled to act for the patient, whose reasonable will and legitimate interests must always be respected.

2279 Even if death is thought imminent, the ordinary care owed to a sick person cannot be legitimately interrupted. The use of painkillers to alleviate the sufferings of the dying, even at the risk of shortening their days, can be morally in conformity with human dignity if death is not willed as either an end or a means, but only foreseen and tolerated as inevitable. Palliative care is a special form of disinterested charity. As such it should be encouraged.

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[MidGe]

Heya bigdaddydvo,

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Sorry Mid, I can't let your subtle plug for euthanasia slip in there without response. I argue there is zero dignity in the act. My reasoning stems from the below, which is what the Catholic Church teaches:

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I accept that as your and your church opinion without any difficulty. And I accept your right not to take the choice of voluntary euthanasia. What I do not accept is for you to try to take my right away away, and will fight for it.. My close ones know my views and the conditions under which this will happen and I am sure they will not stand in the way. We do speak about it every so often, to ensure that everyone is clear about my intentions. Where I live it is not quite legal. However there is information available on how to go about it in a dignified way. I have purchased the appropriate books, and euthanasia is planned for me altough it is not expected for a few years yet.

We are back to staying in our own lanes and respecting each other choices. I respect yours and wish you the best.

[Phil153]

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Isn't there something that can be done? This is too horrible.

[/ QUOTE ]That's why kids were invented.

[Copernicus]

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Isn't there something that can be done? This is too horrible.

[/ QUOTE ]That's why kids were invented.

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Do you mean they were invented to make death a relief instead of something horrible? I thought that was wives.