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Old 03-08-2006, 02:39 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default (114) KQ bubble

villain had been very aggro. no one had played back yet. there are antes of 25.

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UTG (t2185)
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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t800</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2764</font>,
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Old 03-08-2006, 02:56 AM
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Default Re: (114) KQ bubble

Seems standard. No one is in danger of busting in the near future and you have a decent amount of FE here b/c SB can fold and still control the table with 4700 chips, and he doesn't want to call and lose and be stuck as 2nd short stack
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Old 03-08-2006, 02:58 AM
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I like it. You're very rarely worse than a coinflip here. Even w/o an aggro read on SB I probably make this play.
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Old 03-08-2006, 03:01 AM
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I would fold without much hesitation. I really don't think its all that close...
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Old 03-08-2006, 03:04 AM
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You are no fun.

I guess to me it's more about the chance to pick up 800 chips than defending my BB.
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Old 03-08-2006, 03:28 AM
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I would fold without much hesitation. I really don't think its all that close...

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Agree. There is a good of a chance of getting called and the equity defecit we have to make up to pay a pot is too high to push this hand IMO. If we always get called, we need to win this pot about 67% of the time. Even with the FE, I just don't see this as a +EV push. Maybe I'm wrong though.
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Old 03-08-2006, 03:31 AM
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I would fold without much hesitation. I really don't think its all that close...

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Shoving is not good, but there is nothing wrong with gambling and seeing a flop with position here.....nit.
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Old 03-08-2006, 03:32 AM
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I would fold without much hesitation. I really don't think its all that close...

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Shoving is not good, but there is nothing wrong with gambling and seeing a flop with position here.....nit.

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I don't want to call off 600 chips. Anyway I already detailed what situations I thought itd be alright to call. I think calling if he raises to 600 is ok, but I'd lean towards folding...and I would call if he raised 400-500, for those who missed my original post on this subject.
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Old 03-09-2006, 02:08 PM
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I would fold without much hesitation. I really don't think its all that close...

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I agree that KQo is bad here, but where would you draw the line? I feel like AQo would be close if he almost never folds (which probably is the case).

But is AQo enough, or should you want AQs or AKo at least here?
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Old 03-09-2006, 03:46 PM
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I would fold without much hesitation. I really don't think its all that close...

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I agree that KQo is bad here, but where would you draw the line? I feel like AQo would be close if he almost never folds (which probably is the case).

But is AQo enough, or should you want AQs or AKo at least here?

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AK is obviously an easy shove, and I am fairly sure AQs will be also, but not entirely sure. If it was a raise between 2x or 3x, I think I call here with AQs and go from there. AK, I shove everytime. Am I wrong here?
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